Metro after shows

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I don't live in Vienna, but quite probably I could live there in a detached house with a yard. I couldn't if I were in DC or even aRlington. I don't think it is either selfish or wrong to want those two things, do you?
 
 
 

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  I would be willing to do it.  But the question is who wants to live in Vienna?  I mean, come on.  Maybe before whining about the difficulty of getting out there one should research options for living closer in.
 
 But then again, that gets us back to the highly contentious "we suburban dwellers refuse to admit that our highly-polluting, sprawly, evil lifestyle is either selfish or wrong."
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm betting that Chimbley would probably be up for the challenge.
 
   

Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
  Would you really want to bike back to Vienna at 12:30 at night, Chimbley?  Woodley Park is one thing, but I'm not sure about Vienna...

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[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  (insert some statement about how bikes never close, never pay parking, never get caught or punished for drunk biking, don't cost anything, don't pollute, leave whenever you want 'em to, blah blah blah...)

well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress.  oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication).

[nkotb]

So freakin awesome...
 
 I wish he was my dad...
 
 

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  Heh, I saw that show last weekend...the one where he helps that guy fix dinner (and drops meat on the floor) and hangs out with a bunch of girls at a predominantly black college.
 
   

Originally posted by nkotbie:
  AWK throws back protein shakes, not brewskis.  He definitely will high-five you, though.  My goal is to get him to come and work out with me for his new TV show on MTV2.  
 

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[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress.  oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication).

post of the week... TEQUILA!!!!

[ggw]

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  Heh, I saw that show last weekend...the one where he helps that guy fix dinner (and drops meat on the floor)

Episode 101 Summary:
 
 Welcome to YOUR show. Your Friend, Andrew W.K. wants to help you with all your problems. Drop him a line on mtv2.com, and you might get your problem solved or your question answered.
 
 Andrew reads his first letter, from Steve. Steve threw a big party while his parents AND girlfriend were out of town, and in his words "screwed up pretty good." Andrew W.K. feels for Steve and wants to help him out. The way to forgiveness is through the stomach, so Andrew is going to help Steve cook a great meal to apologize.
 
 We meet Steve at his snowy parent's house and Andrew wants to hear directly from Steve how he screwed up. Steve recalls how his parents were out of town for the night and invited a few friends over to hang out. The beer began to flow and more and more "friends" began to show up. Steve stopped recognizing the folks that were in his house, making a mess and, according to his parents, leaving strange odors behind. One thing leads to another and Steve finds himself alone with a girl, and ends up cheating on his girlfriend of a year. D'oh!
 
 During the break Andrew is asked if anyone ever calls him Andy for short. Yes, yes they do. Andrew and Steve are off to the supermarket to buy the apology dinner ingredients. They cause quite the ruckus up and down the aisles--Andrew even catches up on Britney Spears news from US Weekly--but they gather the necessary items for their pasta feast.
 
 We get a quick letter from Jenny during the commercial break, she likes to bring home boys with long hair, but her mother does not approve, what is she to do? Andrew understands, his grandmother does not approve of his long hair, but she still loves him. Andrew advises Jenny to convince her mom that it's what's on the inside that counts.
 
 Back at Steve's house, Andrew drops chop meat on the floor but claims "what they don't know won't hurt them"--and the cooking continues. It looks like it will be a spicy dish, what Andrew calls a "Four Alarm Pasta," including a healthy portion of red pepper, black pepper, jalapenos and more. Steve puts the finishing touches on a cake that sums up how he feels, which reads: "Steve messed up--Sorry."
 
 The menu of the meal consists of pasta, pasta sauce, bread and a power shake dessert that will be eaten during the meal, and of course the apology cake. Andrew invites everyone to sit down, and tells Steve's parents and girlfriend that this is all to show them how badly Steve feels. They dig in and seem to enjoy the meal. Steve's parents feel he has made it up to them and Andrew declares his work complete.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I don't live in Vienna, but quite probably I could live there in a detached house with a yard. I couldn't if I were in DC or even aRlington. I don't think it is either selfish or wrong to want those two things, do you?
 
 
   

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  I would be willing to do it.  But the question is who wants to live in Vienna?  I mean, come on.  Maybe before whining about the difficulty of getting out there one should research options for living closer in.
 
 But then again, that gets us back to the highly contentious "we suburban dwellers refuse to admit that our highly-polluting, sprawly, evil lifestyle is either selfish or wrong."
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm betting that Chimbley would probably be up for the challenge.
 
     

Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
  Would you really want to bike back to Vienna at 12:30 at night, Chimbley?  Woodley Park is one thing, but I'm not sure about Vienna...

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It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.

[jkeisenh]

Originally posted by keithstg:
 It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.

Ummm... and you're more rational in the blanket statement that it's not wrong?  Hmm...
 
 I should tell you that I have asthma and take any air pollution very personally.  As in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow.  No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
 
 Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
 
 But then again, we're getting back into the thread where sububanites claim they're not wrong...

[keithstg]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
 It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.

Ummm... and you're more rational in the blanket statement that it's not wrong?  Hmm...
 
 I should tell you that I have asthma and take any air pollution very personally.  As in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow.  No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
 
 Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
 
 But then again, we're getting back into the thread where sububanites claim they're not wrong... [/b]

A personal choice to live in the suburbs does not constitute a shorter life for you. And, living in the suburbs does not automatically correlate to working in DC. One could just as easily work in the Dulles corridor.
 
 No, I don't see it as wrong for someone to choose to live in the suburbs - no more so than I believe that individuals can choose to smoke if they please, outdoors, which I am sure you are also adamantly opposed to. Nor do I view suburbanites (I am not one), as living "evil" lives, as you evidently do, hence the absence of rationality.
 
 Being hit by a bus, biker, or metro car would shorten my lifespan (as it would yours). Let's then stop that, and deride all mass transit riders as evil.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 

well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress.  oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication). [/b]

There's no basement at the Alamo...LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Jaguär]

       

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
         

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 [qb] well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress.  oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication). [/b]

post of the week... TEQUILA!!!! [/b]

TWO TEQUILAS!!!
 
 ARIBA.....!!!!!!
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 I for one, wouldn't mind living in Vienna. Chimbly, I'd like to know how you expect us all to fit within the District? As I said on this board about a year or so ago (or to this effect), thank God that we don't all want to live within the urban parts or your rents/mortgages would be so exhorbatantly high that only GGW could afford a half of an efficiency and even he would have to work to keep up the payments.
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 Guiny, how do we non-cop types get out of getting busted for drinking and driving. Batting eyelashes only goes so far and I'm not willing to do anything that Mankie would suggest.         :p        BTW, yeah, I know to first and foremost, drive sensibly so not to attract attention.

[Jaguär]

Crap! Quoted instead of editing.   :roll:

[Bags]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
 

Originally posted by keithstg:
 [qb]in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow.  No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
 
 Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
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But not everyone can live in the city, right?  And in the closer in suburbs, the houses are quite close together, so we've certainly packed in the given area.  I think as urban centers grow and become more concentrated, suburban sprawl just happens.  My question always is, if populations around cities are growing so much, are they equally diminishing somewhere else?!?

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Jaguär:
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Guiny, how do we non-cop types get out of getting busted for drinking and driving. Batting eyelashes only goes so far and I'm not willing to do anything that Mankie would suggest.          :p         BTW, yeah, I know to first and foremost, drive sensibly so not to attract attention. [/b]

Well for starters, definetely make sure all your lights are working, thats one of the easiest ways to get stopped. A headlight out, tail light out, turn signal not working is their favorite reason to stop someone. There's no way, unlike speeding or running a stop sign, that you can say they stopped you for no reason. They can point to the headlight and say "see, its out, thats why I stopped him/her, and oh by the way, I smelled alcohol in the vehicle"......OUCH.