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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2007, 06:04:00 pm »
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 But because they loved and/or wanted to listen to the music, or because they recognized Bono or Dylan?!  I think only the latter.
 
 
The two are inherently connected. More people recognize who Bono or Dylan are then Joshua Bell because more people like the music of Bono or Dylan then that of Bell's. Classical violin music IS NOT popular in American society. I'm not making an excuse or saying it shouldn't be, but that's the solid truth. The issue isn't that "people wouldn't buy time out of their day for beauty and art" so much as it is "most people do not care for the particular art form involved."

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2007, 06:38:00 pm »
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 But because they loved and/or wanted to listen to the music, or because they recognized Bono or Dylan?!  I think only the latter.
 
 
The two are inherently connected. More people recognize who Bono or Dylan are then Joshua Bell because more people like the music of Bono or Dylan then that of Bell's. Classical violin music IS NOT popular in American society. I'm not making an excuse or saying it shouldn't be, but that's the solid truth. The issue isn't that "people wouldn't buy time out of their day for beauty and art" so much as it is "most people do not care for the particular art form involved." [/b]
I still disagree.  I think if you put buskers at L'Enfant Plaza doing Dylan songs -- of EQUAL proficiency -- but one was Dylan and the other a random musician, the random musician wouldn't get all that much attention.  Ditto to some dude doing U2 songs REALLY REALLY well.

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2007, 06:51:00 pm »
$32 for 45 minutes work isn't all that bad..

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2007, 11:08:00 am »
The unrecognizability was part of the point -- the experiment was to see how people react to art when it's presented out of the context (venue, prestige, etc.) they're used to.

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2007, 11:15:00 am »
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  $32 for 45 minutes work isn't all that bad..
It is good money, but they would need to play for 4-7 hours a day to make a good living.

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2007, 11:27:00 am »
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  $32 for 45 minutes work isn't all that bad..
It is good money, but they would need to play for 4-7 hours a day to make a good living. [/b]
No taxes though.  So that is like making closer to $50 at a 9-5 job.

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2007, 11:37:00 am »
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  The unrecognizability was part of the point -- the experiment was to see how people react to art when it's presented out of the context (venue, prestige, etc.) they're used to.
But my point is you could have put a neon sign behind him that proclaimed "BEST VIOLINIST LIVING ON EARTH" and people still wouldn't have responded much differently. If you gave those 1000 people tickets to see "the greatest living violinist at Constitution Hall" virtually none would show up because easily 90% of them don't like classic music. This seems painfully obvious to me.

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2007, 01:12:00 pm »
This was about what you hear, not what you see.  It doesn't matter that he was unrecognizable by all but one person.  The premise was would people stop if they heard something that was beautiful?
 
 And it appears that most folks either didn't recognize what this author likens to beauty or don't consider it beautiful enough to stop them from doing what they set out to do this morning.
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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2007, 01:39:00 pm »
I bet more people would give money to a busker playing classical violin than one singing Dylan or U2 songs, if they were being played with equal proficiency. I know I would, even though that coice wouldn't reflect my musical collection.
 
 
 
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  The unrecognizability was part of the point -- the experiment was to see how people react to art when it's presented out of the context (venue, prestige, etc.) they're used to.
But my point is you could have put a neon sign behind him that proclaimed "BEST VIOLINIST LIVING ON EARTH" and people still wouldn't have responded much differently. If you gave those 1000 people tickets to see "the greatest living violinist at Constitution Hall" virtually none would show up because easily 90% of them don't like classic music. This seems painfully obvious to me. [/b]

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Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2007, 03:06:00 pm »
I think it was mostly about who had enough time to stop and listen to a guy playing violin right before they had to get to work or wherever they were going in or out of the L'Enfant Plaza metro station from 7:51-8:34 on the morning of January 12th, 2007.
 
 
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  This was about what you hear, not what you see.  It doesn't matter that he was unrecognizable by all but one person.  The premise was would people stop if they heard something that was beautiful?
 
 And it appears that most folks either didn't recognize what this author likens to beauty or don't consider it beautiful enough to stop them from doing what they set out to do this morning.

Re: Fantastic Post Article
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2007, 03:12:00 pm »
I'll bet if that chick from American Idol/American University stood singing naked outside the Metro station, people would find time in their busy schedule to stop and listen. Even on a cold January morning.

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2007, 02:47:00 pm »
this morning in the times square subway station - as i was walking up the stairs i could hear someone playing music. it was sounding a lot better than most of what is played there, and it turns out it was some, im assuming, famed cellist. i forgot what his name was, but apparently its part of some 'around new york' type show. there was a sign above where he was playing, saying who it was, but probably reminiscent of what happened at l'enfant, no one barely noticed him.
 
 most people walked on by and didn't even look up. i only had about a minute to spare but stopped and listened, and he looked up and smiled at me. i kept thinking, hopefully i made his day. if i had any more time id have probably dropped some money in his cellist case.
 
 It was a nice welcome surprise on my morning rush to work.
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