Author Topic: Throw out that VCR!  (Read 1644 times)

sonickteam2

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Throw out that VCR!
« on: June 21, 2004, 01:08:00 pm »
cause its going to be illegal soon!
 
 haha, well, this is just too funny.
 
  story
 
  forthcoming bill in the U.S. Senate would, if passed, dramatically reshape copyright law by prohibiting file-trading networks and some consumer electronics devices on the grounds that they could be used for unlawful purposes.
 
 A bill called the Induce Act is scheduled to come before the Senate sometime next week. If passed, it would make whoever "aids, abets, induces (or) counsels" copyright violations liable for those violations.
 
 Bottom line:
 If passed, the bill could dramatically reshape copyright law by prohibiting file-trading networks and some consumer electronics devices on the grounds that they could be used for unlawful purposes.
 
 The proposal, called the Induce Act, says "whoever intentionally induces any violation" of copyright law would be legally liable for those violations, a prohibition that would effectively ban file-swapping networks like Kazaa and Morpheus. In the draft bill seen by CNET News.com, inducement is defined as "aids, abets, induces, counsels, or procures" and can be punished with civil fines and, in some circumstances, lengthy prison terms.
 
 The bill represents the latest legislative attempt by influential copyright holders to address what they view as the growing threat of peer-to-peer networks rife with pirated music, movies and software. As file-swapping networks grow in popularity, copyright lobbyists are becoming increasingly creative in their legal responses, which include proposals for Justice Department lawsuits against infringers and action at the state level.
 
 Originally, the Induce Act was scheduled to be introduced Thursday by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, but the Senate Judiciary Committee confirmed at the end of the day that the bill had been delayed. A representative of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a probable co-sponsor of the legislation, said the Induce Act would be introduced "sometime next week," a delay that one technology lobbyist attributed to opposition to the measure.
 
 Though the Induce Act is not yet public, critics are already attacking it as an unjustified expansion of copyright law that seeks to regulate new technologies out of existence.
 
 "They're trying to make it legally risky to introduce technologies that could be used for copyright infringement," said Jessica Litman, a professor at Wayne State University who specializes in copyright law. "That's why it's worded so broadly."
 
 Litman said that under the Induce Act, products like ReplayTV, peer-to-peer networks and even the humble VCR could be outlawed because they can potentially be used to infringe copyrights. Web sites such as Tucows that host peer-to-peer clients like the Morpheus software are also at risk for "inducing" infringement, Litman warned.
 
 Jonathan Lamy, a spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, declined to comment until the proposal was officially introduced.
 
 "It's simple and it's deadly," said Philip Corwin, a lobbyist for Sharman Networks, which distributes the Kazaa client. "If you make a product that has dual uses, infringing and not infringing, and you know there's infringement, you're liable."
 
 The Induce Act stands for "Inducement Devolves into Unlawful Child Exploitation Act," a reference to Capitol Hill's frequently stated concern that file-trading networks are a source of unlawful pornography. Hatch is a conservative Mormon who has denounced pornography in the past and who suggested last year that copyright holders should be allowed to remotely destroy the computers of music pirates.
 
 Foes of the Induce Act said that it would effectively overturn the Supreme Court's 1984 decision in the Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios case, often referred to as the "Betamax" lawsuit. In that 5-4 opinion, the majority said VCRs were legal to sell because they were "capable of substantial noninfringing uses." But the majority stressed that Congress had the power to enact a law that would lead to a different outcome.
 
 "At a minimum (the Induce Act) invites a re-examination of Betamax," said Jeff Joseph, vice president for communications at the Consumer Electronics Association. "It's designed to have this fuzzy feel around protecting children from pornography, but it's pretty clearly a backdoor way to eliminate and make illegal peer-to-peer services. Our concern is that you're attacking the technology."

mankie

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2004, 01:23:00 pm »
But I'm not taping the Euro 2004 games......I'm 'sharing' them, so that makes it all okay....okay?  ;)

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2004, 01:23:00 pm »
i'm moving back to detroit and buying a really fast boat and make some serious cash like my old grandpapa did during prohibition.
 
 this will never fly... how will all those right wing conspiracy theories get discussed on the internet without a computer?
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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2004, 01:26:00 pm »
all i want to know is what idiot posted senator hatches's warblings on the p2p networks.  he's ruining it for the rest of us i tell you.
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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2004, 01:58:00 pm »
When did copyright law become more important than manslaughter?
 
 I can use my car to kill some one, but I can keep my car.  Heaven forbid I share a fucking CD or a tape of the game!
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2004, 02:02:00 pm »
He's just angry that up 'til now nobody has yet wanted to illegally download  this.
      <img src="http://www.hatchmusic.com/images/barry.gif" alt=" - " />
 He took way too much LDS in the sixties with his bud Barry M.
 
  Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) suggested Tuesday that people who download copyright materials from the Internet should have their computers automatically destroyed.
 
 He's suggesting implementing the Irish virus to accomplish this last bit.

mankie

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2004, 02:06:00 pm »
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 I can use my car to kill some one, but I can keep my car.  !
Chimbly is working on that one!

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2004, 02:09:00 pm »
Capital punishment is our societies recognition of the sanctity of human life.
 -- Orrin Hatch, Senator from Utah.
 
 Too much LDS back in the 60's

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2004, 03:43:00 pm »
Here's the TRUE story behind this bill.
 
 In the face of eroding sales the Sheet Music Publishers and Piano Manufactures dug deep and turned up evidence that Sen Hatch was the actual target of that raid on the Florida Adult Theatre when beloved child entertainer Paul Ruebens was caught with his pants around his ankles.  Had Mr. Ruebens not been there that night, which made for much better liberal press headlines, Orrin would have been showed for real "entertainer" he was.
 
 Now instead of having his unseemly side exposed, Sen Hatch has join forces with the Sheet Music and Piano companies to take America back to that carefree time before Edison's soul destroying record and moving picture devices were invented. When for entertainment families would gather around the piano in the parlor and sing the latest hits of the days.   80's sunglass wearer, hack for hire and Canadian scum Corey Hart, is said to hold the key evidence and is looking to finally be able to do something other than "share" songwriting credits with Celine Dion.  
 
 Blame Canada!!!!!
T.Rex

sonickteam2

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2004, 04:15:00 pm »
nice story.
 
    put that up on that Michael Moore site!

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2004, 01:54:00 am »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  When did copyright law become more important than manslaughter?
 
 I can use my car to kill some one, but I can keep my car.  Heaven forbid I share a fucking CD or a tape of the game!
When $$$ became much more important than a human life!

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Re: Throw out that VCR!
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2004, 12:57:00 pm »
i want to do sit-ins...also print out porn and had it out at toy stores.  
 
 this will add to the fun of downloading music....the risks....
 
 if they steal my vcr they are giving me dvds for every fucking tape i have....