Joe the Plumber appreciation thread

[manimtired]

lol

[thirsty moore]

That's not true.  They live in Tronno and are from Jamaica.
 
 

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  They both liked Black chicks, and there aren't any Black people in Canadia.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  They both liked Black chicks, and there aren't any Black people in Canadia.
 
   

Originally posted by manimtired:
  why did you decide to move away from the great socialist mecca that is canada?

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my high school was 40% black.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by manimtired:
  lol

its fitting that manimtired's 1000 post is a
 
 "lol"

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
 [QB] And his question to Mr. Obama about paying taxes? According to some tax analysts, if Mr. Wurzelbacherâ??s gross receipts from his business is $250,000 â?? and not his taxable income â?? then he would not have to pay higher taxes under Mr. Obamaâ??s plan, and probably would be eligible for a tax cut. (source)

btw, let's clarify this a bit. . .joe's question to obama about taxes was joe's concern about growing his business.  it's absolutely true that today, joe's business wouldn't be above the $250K threshold, but, joe told obama that he wanted to grow his business, and he wanted to know if as a result of growing his business, he ended up making more than $250K would his taxes go up. obama said yes, joe said, well, why i should be punished for growing my small business and hiring more people just to end up having to pay more taxes.  at this point obama noted his spread the wealth around, that by taxing successful people like joe, the government can then send that extra money to, shall we say, less successful people.  
 
 btw, not only is obama looking to increase income taxes, but it looks like he wants to increase   social security   taxes as well.
 
 so, if joe grew his company and made more than $250K, not only would his income taxes go up, so would his social security taxes to help cover a portion of the expected short-fall in the future (and, presumably, no increase in future benefits).
 
 btw, who cares that 30% of american's don't pay   taxes.

[sweetcell]

yet another boogeyman raised by the GOP... obama's plan calls for a rise in the tax rate from 35% to 39% - only for the amount over $250,000.  so let's say his income - not revenue, income - goes from $250k one year to $275k (a 10% raise, something few people can expect these days, btw).  currently, he'd pay $96,250 in taxes.  under obama's plan, he'd pay... drum roll please... $97,250.  did his taxes go up?  yup, by a grand.  dude still takes home $177,750 (instead of $178,750).  it's a call to arms!!!  does anyone here seriously think that JtP made a decision to not buy the business based on ten benjamins?!?  mountain out of a molehill, anyone?  
 
 as for the increase in social security taxes (which JtP never talked about, fyi): if this country wants a social security system, it NEEDS to increase money going in to it.  people currently aren't contributing enough, haven't for a while now, and either revenue goes up or the system collapses.  shall we continue the GOP's plan of ignoring the problem?  yeah, very responsible.  that's the kind of leadership we need - let's pass the buck on to the next generation.

[hutch]

i can't stop the bowie song "joe the lion" from going round my head..
 
 its a great song so not so bad..

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
 
 as for the increase in social security taxes (which JtP never talked about, fyi): if this country wants a social security system, it NEEDS to increase money going in to it.  people currently aren't contributing enough, haven't for a while now, and either revenue goes up or the system collapses.  shall we continue the GOP's plan of ignoring the problem?  yeah, very responsible.  that's the kind of leadership we need - let's pass the buck on to the next generation.

well, republican's haven't ignored it, they've had a plan, but god forbid people be allowed to have a say over their own money.  but, the fundamental problem is that there is not enough workers to support an increasing number of retirees.  why should workers today pay more into a system that they have no reasonable expectation of benefiting from in the future?  
 
 also, 77.2 percent of economists agree that "the best way to deal with Social Security's long-term funding gap is to increase the normal retirement age."

[Firebutt McGee]

Originally posted by nkotb:
  Don't we all?
 
   

Originally posted by walkonby:
  according to another forum, joe has a profile on manhunt.com (notorious gay website)  not sure if that is true.

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This was a bad rumor, but yeah, who knows anymore. Everybody has a manhunt profile, right guyyys?  

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Al Jazeera, of all sources, managed to capture the beady-eyed ignorance of McCain/Palin supporters better than any other video I've seen.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0