if there was ever a band that should be able to cash in on the recent indie-hippie crossover thing, it might be these guys. more lead guitar heroics than you can shake a stick of incense at with both of them wailing away at the same time. it gets to be a bit much as some songs get into the fifth and sixth minute, but i guess that's sort of their thing. they sound less like pavement every time i see them. you gotta really love loud electric guitars to like these guys, which i certainly do. fairly empty, no real surprise at iota on a monday.