Jaguar, I think the thing that upset me the most about "Carnival of Light" was that it seemed like a huge step away from all of the things that made Ride such a great band. I loved all their stuff..."Today Forever" was a great EP, even "Going Blank Again" had some great tunes...and "Nowhere" was just brilliant. Check out their box set (with the Reading 1992 live CD). But then the hippy stuff on "Carnival of Light" to me just sounded like they hit a major brick wall. The heavy 60's sound was something I never warmed up to with Ride...it just didn't sound like them anymore. I guess I was one of those fans that didn't want to hear them experiment...I just wanted them to ROCK and sound like Ride, which is why I thought "Tarantula" was a step back in the right direction...but by then it was way way way too late. Really sad how they all turned on each other, and "Carnival of Light" is where that happened. And also, I think grunge destroyed any possibility for bands like the Boo Radleys, Ride, Lush, etc. etc. Ultimately, a lot of those bands just were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Not that I don't appreciate "Nevermind", but give me "Loveless" by MBV any day.