the norva has been added to the list of venues i won't go to again.
the crowds that go there are shit. i'm willing to pay the ~20% more to see the same bands at the 930 club (as well as pay more for parking and deal with worse traffic), than have to deal with the jackasses that frequent the norva.
they also frequently over-sell shows as far as available sightlines go and the only two shows i've been to there (and i've been to several a year since the venue opened in 2001), i've actually enjoyed.. and coincidentally, those were two shows that weren't sold out and actually had space to actually move.