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kosmo vinyl

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Re: Media PC
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2004, 05:54:00 pm »
I'm still pondering options... i.e. cutting edge (Linux), Windoze or punting (DVD Recorder w/ TIVO).
 
 Here's an interest Steve Jobs quote regarding a Media Center Apple.  
 
 Here's a story that we would never have believed if someone told us. Steve Jobs has been quoted saying that Apple is not interested or even trying to go down the same path Microsoft has gone with Windows XP Media Center Edition. Believe it!
 
 Steve Jobs speaking at a financial analysts meeting:
 
     Asked about Apple's interest in selling Macs that could serve up the video recording abilities Microsoft offers with its Windows XP Media Center Edition, Jobs joked that Apple was instead focused on melding the computer with a toaster.
 
     "I never get mine quite brown," said Phil Schiller, vice president of marketing. "We can do an up-sell for bagels."
 
     Jobs said that he doesn't see such products creating a big market.
 
     "We're not going to go that direction," Jobs said. "There is a small audience that likes this."
 
     Jobs said there are several problems with the Media Center concept, in particular the wide divergence in the way people want to watch television as compared with how they use a computer. "Generally what they want to view on television has to do with turning their mind off," he said.
 
     Jobs said that video recording is processor intensive and is best left to a device that is not doing other things such as playing games or running spreadsheets. "When I want to record 'The West Wing,' I want to make damn sure it records 'The West Wing,'" he said.
 
 
 I find this amusing considering that Macs are marketed as Video Editing workstations all the time.  And just how hard is to imagine a mac serving only as a PVR when nessecary.  
 
 
 And a huge word of warning if you are electronic gadgets freak, stay away from  eHomeUpgrade it appears to be an EVIL EVIL site
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Re: Media PC
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2004, 06:29:00 pm »
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  This little beauty is on my wish list.
 
   
That's beautiful!  I'll look more into that.
 
 As far as Jobs, I kind of agree with him right now, but if I were Apple, I wouldn't be ignoring it.  I don't have a Win XPMC machine (and I'm a fan on Windows) because of its limitations and because TiVo Series 2 is so damn beautiful.  Work together to combine them (TiVo runs on Linux or Unix, I forget which) and I'll be sold for life.  
 
 If you already have a DVD editing computer, the TiVo with DVD only really allows you to save TV shows to a DVD, but right now you cannot edit them (even to remove commercials) and I'm not sure if that's worth it's price right now.
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Re: Media PC
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2004, 07:35:00 pm »
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  TiVo runs on Linux

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Re: Media PC
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2004, 09:47:00 pm »
the inspiration for wanting to get a media happy computer was the price of those combo tvio/dvd recorders... it sure would be nice to offload on to dvd what the tvio has recorded.  but for the price one is on the way to new puter which in theory should function the same way and is expandable.  but a little more research is needed it appears, before i punt and go with the home appliance.
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Re: Media PC
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2004, 10:25:00 pm »
Wow Vansmack..thanks for the detailed explanation.  I don't know if I really  need a HTPC, but I love to tinker.  I just dig the gear and setting it up.
 
 I'm curious...is this what you do for a living and if not what do you do if you don't mind me asking?  Also, whats in your A/V rack in your main viewing/listening station at home?

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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2004, 03:38:00 am »
my 2 cents:
 
 i'd go w/ a small form factor barebones combo (shuttle is kicking out some beauties).  definetley an intel mobo/proc, although i love amd, because noise will be a problem for a home theater setup.  intel chipsets have acceptable onboard audio, so that eliminates a sound card...
 
 for video, i really really want a radeon all-in-wonder (the new remote is chez cool), and the 9600 is actually in my price range...but i've heard the video capture ain't all that.  the hauppauge pvr line seems to be the favorite personal video recorder for the buck among the a/v nerds.  
 
 although dvd-r's are cheap at ~$100, i'd wait for the high-density writing drives to come out.
 
 
 my os would be win2k,if you wanna get fancy toss in a *nix file server w/ samba and a wireless router and yer the coolest kid on the block.  if you got the time and the know-how, you can save a bundle by diy.  fuck sony, apple or any of the other overpriced package manufacturers.  pricewatch is your friend.

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Re: Media PC
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2004, 09:29:00 am »
the shuttle looks like a good starting point for a media pc...
 
   <img src="http://sys.us.shuttle.com/Images/Buy/Full/Zoom_ST61G4.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Re: Media PC
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2004, 01:04:00 pm »
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  Wow Vansmack..I'm curious...is this what you do for a living and if not what do you do if you don't mind me asking?  Also, whats in your A/V rack in your main viewing/listening station at home?
I posted a diagram of my A/V unit some time back, but I have changed it immensely since then.  I currently run a Pioneer Tuner with a Sony 5-Disc CD/DVD changer, a TiVo with DirecTV and a TiVo Series 2 with the Home Media Option (I used to only own the Series 2, then when I got DirecTV, they offer the two tuner DVR which is a must if you have DirecTV), an X-Box w/ wireless live, a 32 inch Sony WEGA and wireless network with two laptops (one old just as an internet machine, one "newer" with a DVD burner) and a old server with a 60 Gig USB HD attached for music and photos.
 
 The Home Media Option on TiVo runs over the wireless network and takes all of the music/photos off the USB HD and plays them through my A/V system.  If it weren't for the HMO, I would have switched to a Win XPMC some time ago, but until I get a 40 inch plasma or LCD screen, I can't see switching over when I can do video editing on the laptop and my current screen isn't large enough for multiple Windows.  The TiVo handles my digital music brilliantly.
 
 Oh, and I'm a lawyer for a University.  I've always been a tech head, which my last job took full advantage of, splitting my time, but now I'm 100% lawyer.  When I moved back west, I consulted for a few months until I figured out what I wanted to do.  One of my first clients was a law firm where I designed a network and a media room.  When I finished that, two of the attorneys hired me to do their homes and word got around.  I decided I wasn't ready to give up on my law degree yet so I stopped consulting, took a "real" job and do odds and ends jobs here and there.  I still beta test for TiVo and Microsoft (I was Mac based until 1994, now I am Win based).
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