the hives are the matching suit and skinny tie wearing bunch.... i personally like the hives regardless of what some on this board think of them. yes a large amount of hype accompanied this band at one point. but, it was also a case of being in the right place at the right time. they had already been touring around the states as a less publized 60's garage influence band, when they suddenly landed in the hype zone when garage became "hip" again. sure the lead singer coped a couple moves from the likes of mick jagger and the professor from the woggles, but include them in a mix of 60's garage bands and you wouldn't now they were a contemporary band.
can't comment on the vines never heard them or care to hear them...