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[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I agree with what you're saying, but it's shameful to use poverty as an excuse for violent crime. Especially for something like rape, where they're not doing it out of a sense of financial desperation.

you're a moron, no one uses poverty as an "excuse"

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I agree with what you're saying, but it's shameful to use poverty as an excuse for violent crime. Especially for something like rape, where they're not doing it out of a sense of financial desperation.
 
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  i would once like to see the stats of people convicted of violent crimes who grew up on welfare opposed to those who didn't.
 
  has anyone stopped to think its not so much about race as it is about people who grew up with nothing?
 
   i bet the amount of blacks convicted of violent crimes that live in affluent neighborhoods is probably about the same as the number of whites!

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yeah, i wasnt really using poverty exactly as the reason, but children growing up on welfare usually go to crappy schools, have mothers who beat the crap out of them, and fathers that beat the crap out of their mothers. they are more likely to go to crappy schools, live in bad conditions, therefore may not grow up learning any kind of value of other peoples rights, safety or lives.
 
  i just said "welfare" cause that would be easier to track than say, "kids who go to crappy schools"

[Celeste]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  but children growing up on welfare usually...have mothers who beat the crap out of them, and fathers that beat the crap out of their mothers...

I know you didn't mean this. You're saying poor people "usually" beat their kids? Come on. That's not fair. There are lots of good poor people who love their kids.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by The Vessel:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  but children growing up on welfare usually...have mothers who beat the crap out of them, and fathers that beat the crap out of their mothers...

I know you didn't mean this. You're saying poor people "usually" beat their kids? Come on. That's not fair. There are lots of good poor people who love their kids. [/b]

yes. i didnt mean usually and i actually meant to take usually out and replace it with (are more likely to) as i think i did in another part of my post.
 
  the neighborhood i live in has many families on welfare and without employment and i cant count the times i've seen women hit their kids on the street...so i cant imagine what must happen inside.
 
  but yes, i meant more likely, not usually. sorry  

[sonickteam2]

does no one get what i am trying to say? people keep nitpicking the words i am using, making it seem like i am some horrible person who makes rash generalizations about people. i am assuming you take me as a real fuck.
 
 but what i was trying to say, which i thought was pretty obvious, is that poverty and the effects of it, are more to blame for people committing violent crimes than race is.  you guys arent really going to argue with  that  are you?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Who is taking you as a "real fuck"? I said I agreed with what you said!
 
 

Originally posted by le sonick:
  does no one get what i am trying to say? people keep nitpicking the words i am using, making it seem like i am some horrible person who makes rash generalizations about people. i am assuming you take me as a real fuck.
 
 but what i was trying to say, which i thought was pretty obvious, is that poverty and the effects of it, are more to blame for people committing violent crimes than race is.  you guys arent really going to argue with  that  are you?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Who is taking you as a "real fuck"? I said I agreed with what you said!
 
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  does no one get what i am trying to say? people keep nitpicking the words i am using, making it seem like i am some horrible person who makes rash generalizations about people. i am assuming you take me as a real fuck.
 
 but what i was trying to say, which i thought was pretty obvious, is that poverty and the effects of it, are more to blame for people committing violent crimes than race is.  you guys arent really going to argue with  that  are you?

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well then  i guess not you!  
 
 still though, sorry for all the crazy late night posts everyone!!

Race has nothing to do with Black rapists of white women.  It's merely a happy coincidence.