How was Ben Harper?

[Summerteeth]

I had to leave at the 2 1/2 hour mark.  Sorry to see I missed The Woman in You.  For the first time seeing him, I was blown away.  I did think the 8 song acoustic set was a bit much though.  I wish I had seen more of the full band before I left.

[hitman]

Every Harper show I've been too has had a solo acoustic element.  For those complaining, I guess it was their first time at a BH show.  Luckily for them, this solo acoustic stint wasn't as long as the one he did at Const. Hall years ago.

[Summerteeth]

Yes, I said it was my first time.  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do (like Tim Freund (sp?) who just sounds like Chris Collingwood, or is it the other way around?  Which came first?)

[Sailor Ripley]

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him?

[Summerteeth]

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
   

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him? [/b]

A couple years.  Besides, listening to one artist doesn't mean I have to enjoy all that artist does.  Clearly, you do.  Have at it.

[Sailor Ripley]

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
   

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
     

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him? [/b]

A couple years.  Besides, listening to one artist doesn't mean I have to enjoy all that artist does.  Clearly, you do.  Have at it. [/b]

Of course you don't have to like everything by the artist. But that point is totally irrelevent to your original statement, which is implying that he is "devolving" into the solo accoustic thing. The point I was making is, he has always done this, so there is no devolution going on.
 
 If he didn't play a single acoustic song during his set, I'd probably enjoy it more. But that's beside the point too.

[hitman]

I don't know if I can say that I like the solo acoustic stuff as much as the rocking stuff.  But I do enjoy it, except for the drunk frat boys and sorority chicks yelling during poignant lyrics.  God how I hate that shit.
 
 Let alone, I am much more of a fan of his stuff pre Diamonds on the Inside.  I just didn't think that album held a flame compared to the others.  It seemed like he hit his stride with Fight for Your Mind and Will to Live.  I enjoyed Burn to Shine but thought the previous two albums were much better.  Now I think his music is going into too many different directions, that no real one sounds complete.
 
 This is just my personal tastes and opinions, just like everyone else.  Just like I preferred the Innocent Criminals that played on Fight for Your Mind through to Burn to Shine.  Juan Nelson the bassist is the only one left.  David Leach used to be on percussion with Dean Butterworth on drums.  I just enjoyed that group a lot more.

[Summerteeth]

This is just getting silly, so respond if you want, but this is my last comment.  
 
 Hitman gets what I'm saying I think.  I never said he was "devolving" into acoustic mode.  I think its a waste for him to split his stage time between eclectic genres with the full band and solo acoustic stuff that sounds like a grown man who never grew past his very first songs written as a 15-year-old.  I acknowledge it has always been part of his repetoire, but it is an unfortunate part nevertheless.
 
 

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
   

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
     

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
     

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him? [/b]

A couple years.  Besides, listening to one artist doesn't mean I have to enjoy all that artist does.  Clearly, you do.  Have at it. [/b]

Of course you don't have to like everything by the artist. But that point is totally irrelevent to your original statement, which is implying that he is "devolving" into the solo accoustic thing. The point I was making is, he has always done this, so there is no devolution going on.
 
 If he didn't play a single acoustic song during his set, I'd probably enjoy it more. But that's beside the point too. [/b]

[Summerteeth]

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  This is just getting silly, so respond if you want, but this is my last comment.  
 
 Hitman gets what I'm saying I think.  I never said he was "devolving" into acoustic mode.  I think its a waste for him to split his stage time between eclectic genres with the full band and solo acoustic stuff that, personally, can be found in any corner coffee shop.  I acknowledge it has always been part of his repetoire, but it is an unfortunate part nevertheless.
 
   

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
   

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
     

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
       

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him? [/b]

A couple years.  Besides, listening to one artist doesn't mean I have to enjoy all that artist does.  Clearly, you do.  Have at it. [/b]

Of course you don't have to like everything by the artist. But that point is totally irrelevent to your original statement, which is implying that he is "devolving" into the solo accoustic thing. The point I was making is, he has always done this, so there is no devolution going on.
 
 If he didn't play a single acoustic song during his set, I'd probably enjoy it more. But that's beside the point too. [/b]

[/b]

[Summerteeth]

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
   

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  This is just getting silly, so respond if you want, but this is my last comment.  
 
 Hitman gets what I'm saying I think.  I never said he was "devolving" into acoustic mode.  I think its a waste for him to split his stage time between eclectic genres with the full band and solo acoustic stuff that can be found in any corner coffee shop.  I acknowledge it has always been part of his repetoire, but it is an unfortunate part nevertheless.
 
   

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
     

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
       

Originally posted by Dave Stoller:
       

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
  I just think the man has too much talent to devolve into the folk-acoustic-solo mode that millions of others do

The solo acoustic stuff has been part of his music from day one. How long have you been listening to him? [/b]

A couple years.  Besides, listening to one artist doesn't mean I have to enjoy all that artist does.  Clearly, you do.  Have at it. [/b]

Of course you don't have to like everything by the artist. But that point is totally irrelevent to your original statement, which is implying that he is "devolving" into the solo accoustic thing. The point I was making is, he has always done this, so there is no devolution going on.
 
 If he didn't play a single acoustic song during his set, I'd probably enjoy it more. But that's beside the point too. [/b]

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[igor]

Originally posted by hitman:
  I don't know if I can say that I like the solo acoustic stuff as much as the rocking stuff.  But I do enjoy it, except for the drunk frat boys and sorority chicks yelling during poignant lyrics.  God how I hate that shit.
 
 Let alone, I am much more of a fan of his stuff pre Diamonds on the Inside.  I just didn't think that album held a flame compared to the others.  It seemed like he hit his stride with Fight for Your Mind and Will to Live.  I enjoyed Burn to Shine but thought the previous two albums were much better.  Now I think his music is going into too many different directions, that no real one sounds complete.
 
 This is just my personal tastes and opinions, just like everyone else.  Just like I preferred the Innocent Criminals that played on Fight for Your Mind through to Burn to Shine.  Juan Nelson the bassist is the only one left.  David Leach used to be on percussion with Dean Butterworth on drums.  I just enjoyed that group a lot more.

sad thing was that it wasn't really drunk frat boys yelling during the acoustic set the loudest (the guy that kept yelling "what's up ben harper!!!" and his buddy were in front of me), these guys were probably 30-35 acting like drunken idiots - they were waiting for "steal my kisses" (2 songs i hope he stops playing are "smk" and "burn one down"). then of course, once it gets started others answer back with their own woohoo. i just don't get it.
 
 i'm with you, not a big fan of doti, but enjoy the previous albums. btw, the innocent criminals playing now were the ones from fight for your mind. dean and david leach didn't join til the will to live, then they left and were replaced by leon and oliver for doti, and that's what the line-up has been like with a keyboard player and guitar player added (marc ford being one of the guitar players, from late 2003 to 2004).
 
 the thing about the acoustic set is, if he doesn't do it, people are gonna complain who are fans of the less rocking songs, which is quite a lot especially the older fans, many look forward to it. i'm a fan of both and don't mind the break.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Which fraternities allow 35 year olds admittance?
 
 

Originally posted by igor:
   

Originally posted by hitman:
  I don't know if I can say that I like the solo acoustic stuff as much as the rocking stuff.  But I do enjoy it, except for the drunk frat boys and sorority chicks yelling during poignant lyrics.  God how I hate that shit.
 
 Let alone, I am much more of a fan of his stuff pre Diamonds on the Inside.  I just didn't think that album held a flame compared to the others.  It seemed like he hit his stride with Fight for Your Mind and Will to Live.  I enjoyed Burn to Shine but thought the previous two albums were much better.  Now I think his music is going into too many different directions, that no real one sounds complete.
 
 This is just my personal tastes and opinions, just like everyone else.  Just like I preferred the Innocent Criminals that played on Fight for Your Mind through to Burn to Shine.  Juan Nelson the bassist is the only one left.  David Leach used to be on percussion with Dean Butterworth on drums.  I just enjoyed that group a lot more.

sad thing was that it wasn't really drunk frat boys yelling during the acoustic set the loudest (the guy that kept yelling "what's up ben harper!!!" and his buddy were in front of me), these guys were probably 30-35 acting like drunken idiots - they were waiting for "steal my kisses" (2 songs i hope he stops playing are "smk" and "burn one down"). then of course, once it gets started others answer back with their own woohoo. i just don't get it.
 
 i'm with you, not a big fan of doti, but enjoy the previous albums. btw, the innocent criminals playing now were the ones from fight for your mind. dean and david leach didn't join til the will to live, then they left and were replaced by leon and oliver for doti, and that's what the line-up has been like with a keyboard player and guitar player added (marc ford being one of the guitar players, from late 2003 to 2004).
 
 the thing about the acoustic set is, if he doesn't do it, people are gonna complain who are fans of the less rocking songs, which is quite a lot especially the older fans, many look forward to it. i'm a fan of both and don't mind the break. [/b]

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Which fraternities allow 35 year olds admittance?
 

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[ggw]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Which fraternities allow 35 year olds admittance?
 

Sorry Rhett -- It's probably too late for you.

[hitman]

Originally posted by igor:
   

Originally posted by hitman:
  I don't know if I can say that I like the solo acoustic stuff as much as the rocking stuff.  But I do enjoy it, except for the drunk frat boys and sorority chicks yelling during poignant lyrics.  God how I hate that shit.
 
 Let alone, I am much more of a fan of his stuff pre Diamonds on the Inside.  I just didn't think that album held a flame compared to the others.  It seemed like he hit his stride with Fight for Your Mind and Will to Live.  I enjoyed Burn to Shine but thought the previous two albums were much better.  Now I think his music is going into too many different directions, that no real one sounds complete.
 
 This is just my personal tastes and opinions, just like everyone else.  Just like I preferred the Innocent Criminals that played on Fight for Your Mind through to Burn to Shine.  Juan Nelson the bassist is the only one left.  David Leach used to be on percussion with Dean Butterworth on drums.  I just enjoyed that group a lot more.

sad thing was that it wasn't really drunk frat boys yelling during the acoustic set the loudest (the guy that kept yelling "what's up ben harper!!!" and his buddy were in front of me), these guys were probably 30-35 acting like drunken idiots - they were waiting for "steal my kisses" (2 songs i hope he stops playing are "smk" and "burn one down"). then of course, once it gets started others answer back with their own woohoo. i just don't get it.
 
 i'm with you, not a big fan of doti, but enjoy the previous albums. btw, the innocent criminals playing now were the ones from fight for your mind. dean and david leach didn't join til the will to live, then they left and were replaced by leon and oliver for doti, and that's what the line-up has been like with a keyboard player and guitar player added (marc ford being one of the guitar players, from late 2003 to 2004).
 
 the thing about the acoustic set is, if he doesn't do it, people are gonna complain who are fans of the less rocking songs, which is quite a lot especially the older fans, many look forward to it. i'm a fan of both and don't mind the break. [/b]

The way oliver was talking, he didn't come on until Diamonds.  I could see Leon, being that he looks like he has some age on him, but Oliver looks a little young to have played on Fight.  Either way, I still enjoyed the lineup more with Leach and Butterworth.  Now I think that they have too many people on stage.  Some of Ben's playing ends up being drowned out by the rest of them.  And with Ben, I don't see the need for another guitar player on stage.  But that's just me.