Phantom/WSC roll call

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Actually, back on the Wilco discussion, people were arguing that changing your style was a good thing, a sign of musical growth. Which is it? Growth or lame lame lame?
 
 

Originally posted by redsock:
   

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by redsock:
  Phantom Planet blows most other bands out of the water

I have seen them twice live now, the last time at Recher with Adam Green. For a band with a teeny following they sure sounded pretty decent and put on a great show. The lead singer hamming it up and jumping into the audience. [/b]

You saw them while they were still doing their 'California influenced beach-rock' phase. Their new 'selling out to the garage god phase' sucks ass. Unless you're a legend (Bowie, Dylan), or SR-71, changing your style mid-stream is lame lame lame. [/b]

[redsock]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by redsock:
   

You saw them while they were still doing their 'California influenced beach-rock' phase. Their new 'selling out to the garage god phase' sucks ass. Unless you're a legend (Bowie, Dylan), or SR-71, changing your style mid-stream is lame lame lame. [/b]

Must you insist on me having to keep correcting you?
 
 I saw them this year at Recher with Adam Green it was probably less than 14 weeks ago. They were in their "new phase" which is actually how they sounded live the other time I saw them, at Blackcat ages ago.
 
 But your an expert on this because you have seen them how many times live, exactly?
 
 As for reinvention, well you are obviously joking, right? [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 You're correct, I haven't seen them live. But I have heard both of their Cd's and the new one is flat out horrible. Not that I found the old one much better. Reinvention is one thing. Growing as an artist is awesome, and will likely change your sound over time... especially as a band moving from their first album to their second. Hell, the songs on a bands first album are likely years old before they get make some money off of them. While the second album is much fresher material, which is why the 'sophmore' slump is so prevelant; the sounds are often different, reflecting growth.
 
 But changing your sound to fit with a current marketing trend is deplorable, and while you can feel differently, I think that is exactly what Phantom Planet did.

[redsock]

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
   

or SR-71

I get what you are trying to compare, but, uh, huh? [/b]

that was a joke... SR-71 used to be a horrible cover band. Now they are just a band writing horrible songs.

[markie]

Originally posted by redsock:
 But changing your sound to fit with a current marketing trend is deplorable, and while you can feel differently, I think that is exactly what Phantom Planet did.

You are wrong, the first album did not reflect the sound of the band live. The band were always loud and raucous live. No sell out involved.

[ggw]

I heard Exit Clov was becoming a jam band.

[kosmo vinyl]

i saw phantom planet in la when they were signed to geffen and they were just loud... thats they only impression they left on me.
 
 my favorite sr-71 factoid is that the bands one "hit" Right Now was actually co-written/ghost written by the guy in Marvelous 3.  
 
 also, mitch allan placed sr-71 at the top of several personal favorites list for a year end wrap issue of  Music Monthly a couple years ago. i.e. favorite live act, local band, record, etc...

[eltee]

I heard SR-71's guitarist passed away mid-June.

[redsock]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by redsock:
 But changing your sound to fit with a current marketing trend is deplorable, and while you can feel differently, I think that is exactly what Phantom Planet did.

You are wrong, the first album did not reflect the sound of the band live. The band were always loud and raucous live. No sell out involved. [/b]

Ok, I'm wrong, they didn't sell out. They were always just a generic garage band.

[xcanuck]

I've seen PP alot more times than I care to admit to. First time I saw them was when they opened for Matthew Sweet in SF. Their live shows have always struck me as being somewhere inbetween pure pop and garage rock (leaning more towards pop). Certainly the first couple of CDs reflected that pop sensability. I've heard some of the new CD to realize that I don't really care for it.
 
 Did they sell out? Change their sound to fit a marketing trend? Wouldn't doubt it - they wouldn't be the first. But to give them the benefit of the doubt, they've lost two band members and maybe that alone accounts for the chance in sound.
 
 Regardless, I'm a fan of WSC (saw them rock the house in Philly last weekend) so WSC and PP together is worth the money for the show.

[dillich]

I actually like both Phantom Planet albums, although I think they're sometimes spotty.  I like Beulah and lighter indie pop, so The Guest fit in with that.  I also like The Strokes, and I think the second one has some songs, like "Big Brat" and "Making a Living," that resemble the Strokes with melody.  It should be a fun show.  Bands reinvent themselves all the time -- see the Flaming Lips. It's just rock music, don't take it so seriously. I've also heard WSC is good, so I look forward to seeing them.
 Exit Clov is kind jam band-ish now; saw them in concert.

[chelledc]

I saw the show and loved it. If they've always done the songs from The Guest the way that they did at this show then it really does go well with the style of the new album.
 
 They really seem to love what they do and I would love to see them again.

[redsock]

Originally posted by flaminglipsfan:
  I actually like both Phantom Planet albums, although I think they're sometimes spotty.  I like Beulah and lighter indie pop, so The Guest fit in with that.  I also like The Strokes, and I think the second one has some songs, like "Big Brat" and "Making a Living," that resemble the Strokes with melody.  It should be a fun show.  Bands reinvent themselves all the time -- see the Flaming Lips. It's just rock music, don't take it so seriously. I've also heard WSC is good, so I look forward to seeing them.
 Exit Clov is kind jam band-ish now; saw them in concert.

Who are you and what do you do you know about Exit Clov's sound? If you've seen them recently, i.e. the last 6 months, their sound has veered far away from jammy, minus the occasional over-done virtuoso-guitar solo. But even those are ten-times  better than they used to be.
 
 Oh, and welcome to the board.

[granita]

i went with hopes of seeing the washington social club, however i forgot that it was an early show and completely missed them.
 
 phantom planet was okay. nothing special. the fugazi cover was unnecessary. and that is an understatement.