Is the RIAA suing you?

[RatBastard]

404 is because the site is NOT .com it is .org!
 
 http://www.riaa.com/
 
 DOH!

[RatBastard]

It still stands that the stealers can come up with endless excuses to justify what they do.  None of them will ever change the fact that they are stealing.  You are stealing, I know it, you know it, the RIAA knows it, and the artist you are stealing from knows it.  That is all there is to the whole discussion at all.  End of story.
 
 
 BTW, I was surprised and pleased to see that so many of you agreed with my original post of my views.  I was not sure what kind of repies to expect.
 
 (See you at the Eels show!)

[Yank]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   

Originally posted by mankie:
 
 Look, I'm not being holier than thou on this issue, I'm just trying to get people to understand/admit that it is stealing, regardless of whatever creative name they can come up with for it. If you don't get caught then God bless, but if you do don't start whinging about it. [/b]

Very well put, better than anything I've come up with so far.  Wisdom really does come with Age.    [/QB]

So do hemorrhoids!  

[paige]

to go along with Yank's comment about cd's from friends that are burned... i've noticed that on this board, a few of you have asked each other "will you have my cd's at the [insert band here] show?" and if i can recall, the aforementioned cd's were burned.. that's just as bad as downloading songs!
 
 many bands do have ways to download songs directly through their website... but sigur ros encourages using p2p programs that are listen on their site as well... if some bands condone it and some don't, what is there to do?

[Yank]

Originally posted by RatBastard:
  It still stands that the stealers can come up with endless excuses to justify what they do.  None of them will ever change the fact that they are stealing.  You are stealing, I know it, you know it, the RIAA knows it, and the artist you are stealing from knows it.  That is all there is to the whole discussion at all.  End of story.
 
 
 BTW, I was surprised and pleased to see that so many of you agreed with my original post of my views.  I was not sure what kind of repies to expect.
 
 (See you at the Eels show!)

As mentioned earlier, driving down I95 at 70 mph is a crime. Jaywalking is crime in a lot of states (or at least it was).  Drinking at the 930 Club during a show and then driving home afterwards is a crime too.  I'm sure we can think of a lot more crimes that are committed daily by all of us so-called law abiding people.  I'm not trying to justify downloading, but I won't be sanctimonious about it either.   There sure are a lot of stone throwers around here.

[Yank]

This is from today's Liverpool Echo.  
 
 On-The-Spot fines are set to be introduced against people who ruin Liverpool's streets with chewing gum.
 
 People who spit out their gum on the pavements will be targeted in a new campaign designed to clean up the city streets as we head towards European Capitol of Culture in 2008.
 
 So if any of you are planning a trip to Liverpool in the near future, leave your chewies at home.

[mankie]

And if any of you do visit
 Liverpool, you can expect to see a lot of............ <img src="http://www.dodgy-scouser.com/scousers.jpg" alt=" - " />

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by paige:
  what if you work in the music industry and you get hooked up with free cd's all the time because of who you know and band's managers and what not? is it still stealing if they say it's ok? i think it is, based on what has been going on back and forth on this topic for 4 pages anyway.

providing promo cds is a standard practice in the music industry...  but remember it's the artist and the record company which are giving them away.  as the copywrite holder they own the right to whatever they want with the material.  if it means dropping loads of promos and not getting paid for them it's their choice.

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by paige:
  to go along with Yank's comment about cd's from friends that are burned... i've noticed that on this board, a few of you have asked each other "will you have my cd's at the [insert band here] show?" and if i can recall, the aforementioned cd's were burned.. that's just as bad as downloading songs!
 
 many bands do have ways to download songs directly through their website... but sigur ros encourages using p2p programs that are listen on their site as well... if some bands condone it and some don't, what is there to do?

be very very quiet we are hunting rabbits....
 
 in all cases you have to abide by what the band choices to do with their copywrited material.  some are more liberal than others (sigur ros and elbow).

[paige]

Originally posted by Yank:
 As mentioned earlier, driving down I95 at 70 mph is a crime. Jaywalking is crime in a lot of states (or at least it was).  Drinking at the 930 Club during a show and then driving home afterwards is a crime too.  I'm sure we can think of a lot more crimes that are committed daily by all of us so-called law abiding people.  I'm not trying to justify downloading, but I won't be sanctimonious about it either.   There sure are a lot of stone throwers around here.

i think that that is a really good point to raise, yank. while other laws we break don't sound as "horrible" as stealing does, it's still breaking the law. so i think that everyone who is like "either way you look at it, you are stealing music" should stop sounding sooo self righteous unless you abide all laws across the board.

[Yank]

A Scouser's salute to the fine people of Manchester........
 
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