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New album not coming out on CD
« on: August 26, 2005, 10:17:00 am »
This is a bummer to me, and I'm skeptical about your ability to actually rip from the DVD...
 
 Web, DVDs Could Mark CDs' Slow Death
 
 By Yuki Noguchi
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Friday, August 26, 2005; D01
 
 
 When Ohio-based rock band the Sun releases its first full-length album next month, it will be available on DVD, online and on vinyl record. But not on the medium that's still the biggest seller in the music industry today: the compact disc.
 
 "It's a tip of the hat to the past and the tip of the hat to the future," said Perry Watts-Russell, a senior vice president at Warner Bros. Records Inc., which signed the band.
 
 The label expects the Sun to be the first of many artists to embrace a no-CD, video-only strategy. And that is part of a larger move away from the traditional album concept that some experts say is steering the CD the way of the hand-cranked gramophone.
 
 The full-length CD format, which debuted in 1981, last year sold 766.9 million copies, down from a high of 942.5 million in 2000, according to statistics from the Recording Industry Association of America. At the same time, online sales -- championed by the popular Apple Computer Inc. iTunes Web site -- is picking up part of the slack: 139.4 million tracks were sold online in 2004.
 
 The digitization of music has created a shift in how tunes are shared and consumed. Because it's faster to copy and transmit digital music, more people are copying and sharing tracks -- prompting copyright concerns from the entertainment industry. On the other hand, the cheapness of Internet distribution allows many no-names to release music that otherwise might never be seen or heard outside a garage.
 
 The Sun's 14-song album, "Blame It on the Youth," will be released Sept. 27 and will come with one disc option -- a DVD of music videos that can be manipulated through a computer to download the songs onto an MP3 player or burn them onto a CD. Actually, there is a second disc, but it's made of vinyl -- a nod to a burgeoning subculture that is reviving the old long-play format.
 
 Having a new generation of listeners who may be building libraries of songs by piggy-backing off their friends' collections doesn't bother Sam Brown, drummer and songwriter for the Sun, which had a $50,000 budget to produce the videos for the album. "As more people find out about our band, more people will turn out when we play," he said. And for smaller acts like his, live performance is where the money is.
 
 Members of the Sun, which is a garage pop band with a slightly retro aura and a sound one critic called "slick and gritty," knew that its demographic reflected its own persona: younger, digital and alternative.
 
 "I haven't bought a new CD in a very long time," Brown said. Instead, he searches for vinyl versions, or rips songs to his iPod, or gets music from friends, he said.
 
 The five-member band produced its own videos, and the record label was sold on the digital-video-only option, he said. "It is sort of a leap of faith to the future," Brown said, but "it feels good to be in the company of forward-thinking people."
 
 Watts-Russell of Warner Bros. acknowledges that all-video and all-Internet distribution changes the definition of the word "album" -- a sequenced body of songs with heavy emphasis on the all-important cover art.
 
 "I think the gestalt of having an album has been changing on its own, with or without this change," he said. "A few years from now, this is going to be exceedingly common," Watts-Russell said. "You can avoid the CD. It's on its way out. It's in no way out now, but the writing is on the wall."
 
 Staff researcher Richard Drezen contributed to this report.

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Re: New album not coming out on CD
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 10:22:00 am »
this is a really dumb move... it's only being done to get press for the band.  i think a pool is in order for how long it is until this comes out commerically on CD.  it most certainly will come out on promo cds...  people still listen to cds in cars, at home. not everyone is plugged into the medicore sounds of mp3s.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 01:47:00 pm »
What rebels!

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005, 01:48:00 pm »
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  not everyone is plugged into the medicore sounds of mp3s.
Here, here. I still wish Ipod would work shn/flac support into their next model, but they won't.

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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005, 03:39:00 pm »
Just heard a track of theirs on KEXP and it sounded cool, but seeing this I couldn't be bothered with that kind of crap. Kind of like how the Screamers didn't want to make records in 1978...they made music videos. NOw they have no output or discography. Such a shame because they were an amazing band.

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2005, 03:48:00 pm »
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  Just heard a track of theirs on KEXP and it sounded cool, but seeing this I couldn't be bothered with that kind of crap.
They're OK, actually, if it's the same band that opened for the Flaming Lips/Sparklehorse tour in 2003.

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2005, 02:06:00 am »
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  Just heard a track of theirs on KEXP and it sounded cool, but seeing this I couldn't be bothered with that kind of crap.
They're OK, actually, if it's the same band that opened for the Flaming Lips/Sparklehorse tour in 2003. [/b]
It is.

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2005, 05:40:00 pm »
We got the promo CD and it has a big ntoe slapped on it about this whole distribution thing. I figured it was all a PR move. Certainly seems that way. At least all the illegal file-sharers will still get to listen to it. After all, isn't that what counts?

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2005, 11:00:00 am »
So how will it get radio play without a CD?  Will radio stations be using DVDs or vinyl?  I guess the CDs will be promotion only (per redsocks) but then you will have people wanting what they hear on the radio pissed that they can not get it in that format.

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2005, 11:01:00 am »
This idea would rate as a fucking disaster, but I'm sure the catastrophic failure will be blamed on "the band being indie" instead of "horrible gimick gone awry."

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2005, 11:10:00 am »
last time i checked warner bros wasn't an indie label... so gimmick gone horrible will be what the articules read in six months...
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Re: New album not coming out on CD
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2005, 11:12:00 am »
and besides what kinda of quaility videos could be made for 50k....
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2005, 11:13:00 am »
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  last time i checked warner bros wasn't an indie label... so gimmick gone horrible will be what the articules read in six months...
Yes, but The Sun isn't a "mainstream" band. There's no way - even if this was released on CD and given major promotion - that this sells 100,000 copies. The effect of a record that would've sold 45,000 copies only selling 20,000 isn't going to register on the social conciousness as much as it would if the next Ashlee Simpson record was released in such a format.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2005, 11:14:00 am »
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  and besides what kinda of quaility videos could be made for 50k....
Some of the most heart-wrenching, moving pornographic films of our era have been shot for a mere fraction of that ammount.