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vansmack

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« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2004, 06:39:00 pm »
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  if i'm going to the coffee shop with wifi i bring the laptop. if i have an mp3 player its filled to the max
Quality argument...that type of versatility is not useful to me, so why make it versatile for others?  Do you work for Apple?
 
 You know, it toook Apple over ten years and a 30% dip in market share before they allowed other printers to be hooked up to Apple computers.  Versatility is important.  Just not as important as marketing to Apple.  
 
 At least a few others on this board have seen the short sightedness and lack of versatility in the iPod.  It's a great Music Player, and it's extremely well marketed - nobody has argued otherwise.  But it lacks the versatility that makes other music players better.  In my opinion, it's too wed to iTunes, and that affects it's versatility.  Adding photos to an iPod is not going to change this - let me guess - iPhoto is required, right?
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« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2004, 06:54:00 pm »
but the iriver is hardly seemless when interacting with osx. if you select 'use ipod as a storage device' i am pretty sure you can store any kind of file on the ipod anyway. wasn't the rumor that at one point, the complete masters of fellowship of the ring were stored on an ipod?
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« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2004, 09:56:00 pm »
keithstg asked. Here's the answer:
 
 Copying iPod music back to a computer:
 http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=5090_0_8_0_M

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« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2004, 09:08:00 am »
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  keithstg asked. Here's the answer:
 
 Copying iPod music back to a computer:
  http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=5090_0_8_0_M
Thanks very much - that is great.

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« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2004, 12:17:00 pm »
This is the best article I've seen on the new iPod.  
 
 October 28, 2004
 STATE OF THE ART
 The iPod's New Trick: Photo Show
 By DAVID POGUE
 The New York Times
 
 SAN JOSE, Calif., Oct. 27 - All right, Apple. The iPod has 92 percent of the market for high-capacity music players. You sold two million of them in the last quarter alone. Your music store, whose songs play only on the iPod, has 70 percent of the online song sales market, and you've just rolled it out in 10 new countries.
 
 What on earth do you do for an encore?
 
 Apple revealed its answer Tuesday to an invited audience of journalists at a half demonstration, half U2 rock concert here: a new, top-of-the-line model that takes the iPod concept in a new direction that's simultaneously risky and overwhelmingly natural. Instead of just playing your music, this model also shows off your photos.
 
 The iPod Photo, as it's called, looks and feels exactly like the existing iPod (it's one millimeter thicker). There's the famous white click wheel, there's the shiny chrome back panel, there are your fingerprints on it. But its two-inch screen is now in bright, crisp color.
 
 The color screen is infinitely superior to the old black-and-white one, thanks in part to its new, sharper typeface. It makes a world of difference to built-in iPod programs like the calendar and the arcade games. It also shows the album's cover artwork when a song is playing.
 
 But the real purpose of this screen is, of course, to display your digital pictures, which the iPod Photo automatically copies from your Mac or PC.
 
 That stunt is brought to you by Version 4.7 of Apple's free iTunes jukebox software; you use it to specify a source for your photo collections. On the Macintosh, it's taken for granted that you use Apple's iPhoto software to organize your pictures; you can specify which albums (that is, subsets) you want synched to the iPod.
 
 On a PC (Windows XP or 2000), you can sync the iPod with photo collections you've set up in Adobe Photoshop Elements or Photoshop Album, or with any pictures folder on your hard drive (like My Pictures).
 
 Of course, a two-inch display isn't what you'd call a billboard; it's no bigger than the screen on the back of a digital camera. Fortunately, you can also connect the iPod Photo to a TV set by plugging the included iPod-white, three-headed audio-video cable into, of all things, the iPod's headphone jack. (There's also an S-video jack on its charging cradle.) This way, you can entertain the whole family with your little "Day in the Life of Me" presentation, as your handpicked music plays in the background.
 
 As it turns out, the existing iPod's design, originally conceived for music, lends itself beautifully to photo shows.
 
 For example, the functions of the click wheel's four buttons - Menu, Previous, Next and Play/Pause - apply just as naturally to slide shows. Ditto for the iPod's navigational system: the click wheel can breeze through the list of photo albums just as it does through music playlists. And running your finger around the wheel during a slide show adjusts the soundtrack volume just as it does during straight-ahead music playback.
 
 In short, graduating from a traditional iPod to a color iPod involves virtually no relearning.
 
 A kind of slide-sorter view displays 25 tiny pictures per screen; it's one way to pluck a certain photo from among the hundreds. Another is to spin the click wheel, which can page through full-screen photos astonishingly quickly and smoothly. They flicker past almost as though they're frames of film.
 
 Here's another nice touch: When the iPod Photo is hooked up to a TV, your adoring fans see only the full-size photo on the TV screen. But you, captain of the iPod, see a tidy little command center on its screen: the current photo, flanked by thumbnails of the previous and next
 
 ones. They provide a convenient crutch for narrating the show. ("O.K., see how cocky Chris looks here, going up the ski lift? Now I'll show you Chris five seconds later.")
 
 And because you can see which photo is coming next, you'll never be caught in what veteran presenters call a "Now how'd that get in there?" moment.
 
 Before shuttling your photos off to the iPod, the iTunes software does quite a bit of preprocessing, including scaling down your huge multimegapixel digital pictures to fit the iPod's two-inch screen. Because the resulting files are so tiny, Apple says that up to 25,000 of them can fit on the iPod Photo. (You can choose to include the full-resolution photos on the iPod's hard drive, too, which is handy when you want to transport them from one computer to another. In that case, of course, the iPod holds far fewer than 25,000.)
 
 Unfortunately, all that processing adds a considerable amount of time to the synching process. On the Macintosh, the added delay is tolerable; you wait about 10 seconds for a dozen fresh pictures. But on Windows, synching is measured in minutes, not seconds. For best results, keep a stack of Popular Photography magazines next to your iPod cradle.
 
 Photo fans should also note that the iPod's 220-by-176-pixel screen doesn't neatly accommodate pictures that have 4:3 proportions, or even 3:2 proportions (the standard aspect ratios of digital photos). Unless you care to crop each of your 25,000 photos before synching them to your iPod, be prepared to accept a subtle letterbox effect, a thin strip of black above and below each photo. (What the heck; the Bravo channel does it all the time.)
 
 The iPod Photo comes in two models, both pricey. One, with a 40-gigabyte hard drive, costs $500, which is $100 more than its black-and-white counterpart. The other, with a new 60-gigabyte drive, goes for $600.
 
 Both models, despite the color screen, somehow manage to provide about 25 percent longer battery life than their predecessors: 15 hours of music playback, or five hours of slide shows with music. ("Which is probably more than your friends will watch," added Steve Jobs, Apple's chief.)
 
 So, yes, the iPod Photo is beautifully done. But within hours of its unveiling, iPod cynics were asking some hard-nosed questions online. Why can't you download your pictures onto this thing straight from a digital camera? Why do you have to use iTunes, a music program, to manage the photo loading? And, inevitably: Why can't it play video?
 
 After all, for the same $500, you can buy a Windows Mobile Portable Media Center that plays not only music and photos, but videos too. (Of course, its hard drive holds only half as much as the iPod Photo's, you can't use it to record your own TV shows, and it's three times the size of an iPod. But still.)
 
 These are rational questions. And if you're among those baffled by the iPod's appeal, well, consider yourself lucky. You won't find anything as beautiful, as polished or as simple to master, but you may well find a rival with more features or a lower price.
 
 (And if you are in that category, you'll definitely want to avoid the striking new iPod U2 Edition, also unveiled this week. It's a traditional, 20-gigabyte, music-only iPod with a shiny black face, a red click wheel and the four U2 band members' signatures laser-etched onto the back panel. And it costs $350, which is $50 more than a regular white iPod.)
 
 But as about six million people now know, buying an iPod isn't a rational decision. It appeals to people's emotions, their creativity, and even their vanity. It's not a machine, it's a personal accessory. In fact, it's practically jewelry.
 
 That's why the iPod Photo makes so much sense. The iPod has always played your songs, in your chosen sequence, at a volume only you can hear; now it also shows snapshots of your life, friends and memories. In other words, Apple has found a way to make the iPod even more expressive, individualized and personal. Rational, schmational - get me on the waiting list.
 
 
 E-mail: Pogue@nytimes.com

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« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2004, 12:29:00 pm »
It also tells you when the milk in your fridge has spolit and you need to order more.  It calls Giant for you.  And it vacuums your living room.  Get's rid of embarrassing collar stains, too!  It gives you an erection.  It wins the election.
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« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2004, 11:48:00 am »
you asked for it:
 
 Designer ??i?s: iPod Gets Dressed
 
 Thu Nov 4, 1:09 PM ET   Fashion - Fashion Wire Daily
 
 Karen Robinovitz
 
 Fashion Wire Daily November 4, 2004 - NEW YORK - Being well accessorized does not stop at the handbag you tote. Oh no. Cell phones, Blackberries, Sidekicks now wear Swarovski crystals and sit pretty in the hot little hands of Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Simpson (news).
 
 Hewlett Packard, the company that once gave Puff Daddy (news - web sites) a diamond-encrusted iPod per gratis, is making sure that the fashion set keeps things chic in the iPod department with removable "tattoos" ?? basically graphic stickers that wrap around the gadget to give it a touch of cool. Last week, the company, which has been venturing into the fashion industry by partnering with the CFDA and Vogue on uber-posh events and promotions, launched a "tattoo gallery" online (www.hp.com) where you can download iPod tattoos ($14.99 each) created by hot designers like Derek Lam, Doo-Ri, Behnaz Sarafpour, Edmundo Castillo and Dean Harris amongst others, as well as rock stars like Gwen Stefani (news), The Cure, Sting, The Hives (the proper printing equipment and sticker paper, however, is required).
 
 Imagine a Prouenza Schouler tattoo that looks just like the tweed suit you covet for spring, a cheeky Libertine number with the kind of iconic downtown-cool images the designers Jason Hartig and Cindy Greene are known for, a tropical aqua, pink, and green floral print based on the fabric of a feminine Peter Som dress, or something that looks exactly like the denim of your Habitual jeans (yes, the designers of Habitual created a tattoo, too).
 
 As of yesterday, Ashton Kutcher, Amber Tamblyn, Rachel Bilson, and Jimmy Fallon (news) were sporting a special VOTE tattoo on their music machines. And you can also personalize your own tattoos by downloading digital photos. Please, we beg you: no compromising images of Paris Hilton.
 
   <img src="http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/fwd/20041105/thumb.fwd104b20041104jpg.jpg" alt=" - " />
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« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2004, 11:27:00 am »
if i ever see anyone with that backback, i am definately punching them in the face.
 
 and that black ipod looks nice as shit, it sucks that it's all u2 themed, hopefully they will just come out with regular black ones.  the u2 thing was a bad idea, just a good way to ruin a good thing.

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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2004, 01:53:00 pm »
http://apple.weblogsinc.com/entry/0411742428673731/
 
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« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2004, 01:00:00 pm »
Question:
 
 Is there any difference betweeen the HP iPod and the PC iPod I'd get from Apple?
 
 I'm buying an iPod for a friend with a PC, and not sure what way to go.  Though the mini is only available from Apple, and I'm thinking of going mini...

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« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2004, 01:15:00 pm »
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  Question:
 
 Is there any difference betweeen the HP iPod and the PC iPod I'd get from Apple?
 
 I'm buying an iPod for a friend with a PC, and not sure what way to go.  Though the mini is only available from Apple, and I'm thinking of going mini...
I dont think there is any difference.
 
 It took 10 weeks waiting to get a mini ipod for Lulu. It might have been the latest gift, ever.

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« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2004, 01:18:00 pm »
Why 10 weeks?  I got an apple mini at the retail store this weekend.  Did you mail order?

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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2004, 01:45:00 pm »
there is a company that will customize your ipod -- changing the backlight color and I think the case color too.  I think it costs a bunch, but if you're the kind of effete fop that cares a lot about what your Ipod looks like, you'll be willing to spend it.
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« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2004, 02:45:00 pm »
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  Why 10 weeks?  I got an apple mini at the retail store this weekend.  Did you mail order?
Yep it was mail order, but I called all around, including apple and they all said the same thing.... This was back in the beginning of July though.
 
 They are planning on selling about a million ipods a month running up th Christmas.

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« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2004, 04:38:00 pm »
Next question:
 
 The question is, do I get my friend a 5GB blue mini, which is in her obssessively FAVORITE color and is lighter for jogging, which I know she wants to do...
 
 Or do I get a 20GB, which is only $50 more.  
 
 Initially I thought I'd get her a mini and fill it up myself (I thought she'd gotten another MP3 player to use on her PC).  But, turns out she never got another one, so I think it may be better for me to get her a PC one and let her put the music on (if I fill it up, she can't change it as it will be formatted for Apple, and she happens to be in Nairobi -- not a lot of options).  I then could bring her some DVDs with MP3s on it to pretty much fill the mini at least.
 
 Thoughts?