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Arthwys

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Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« on: June 21, 2007, 05:31:00 pm »
I'm headed down for the sunday night show (24th).  Super-psyched.  I never got to see them first time 'round and then they break up.  This band is the one that I regretted most have never seen and wonder of wonders, I get (if not quite the original) a second chance.  Plus I have the Grand Rex show on CD and it sounds fantastic.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 05:33:00 pm »
I'm in for the 26th and 27th. Where you staying in Asheville?

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 05:36:00 pm »
Sadly, I'm doing this shoe-string budget style.  My 2 friends and I are renting a car, leaving 12 am sunday, driving straight down into Asheville, finding some legal place to park all day long, and camping out in front of the venue from basically the time we get there until doors open.  Then, after the show, get this, we are leaving asheville and driving all the way back.  Part of the problem is my friend most probably has jury duty back here on the 25th, so we'll be attempting to get him there.  Call this one last crazy college-style fling, but hell, it's the Pumpkins.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 05:40:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
  Sadly, I'm doing this shoe-string budget style.  My 2 friends and I are renting a car, leaving 12 am sunday, driving straight down into Asheville, finding some legal place to park all day long, and camping out in front of the venue from basically the time we get there until doors open.  Then, after the show, get this, we are leaving asheville and driving all the way back.  Part of the problem is my friend most probably has jury duty back here on the 25th, so we'll be attempting to get him there.  Call this one last crazy college-style fling, but hell, it's the Pumpkins.
Haha nice. I would do the "drive back afterwards" thing, but going 2 days back-to-back...

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 05:44:00 pm »
I'm in for the Aug 1 show.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 06:07:00 pm »
23rd and 24th.  Staying at the Red Roof Inn in West Ashville, which was pretty cheap.
 
 I'm down to get beers with any DC folk.
 
 Arthways!  I'm driving back post show on Sunday as well.  Want to get a caravan going to ensure we don't fall asleep at the wheel and keep an eye out for one another?

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 06:13:00 pm »
If anyone still needs lodging, there's a Days Inn less then half a mile from the venue, pool, wireless high speed internet, free breakfast - $55/night.
 
 Quite the deal, even for a Days Inn.

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 08:32:00 pm »
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  If anyone still needs lodging, there's a Days Inn less then half a mile from the venue, pool, wireless high speed internet, free breakfast - $55/night.
 
 Quite the deal, even for a Days Inn.
$55?  I've stayed there for a couple of shows before, and will for the show on the 29th, but I don't think I've gotten rates better than $72 any of those times?  Are you sleepin with the manager?

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 08:34:00 pm »
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  $55?  I've stayed there for a couple of shows before, and will for the show on the 29th, but I don't think I've gotten rates better than $72 any of those times?  Are you sleepin with the manager?
The one on Patton Road/Avenue? There's a couple of Days Inn in town.
 
 It was the set rate going through DaysInn.com or hotels.com. Not a special AAA/corporate/whatever rate at all. Maybe it's less during the week then the weekend. (To be fair, after tax it was like $61.)
 
 If this is the same hotel you've stayed at, how is it? As big of a rathole as I'm thinking? Is the pool nice (my friend insisted we find a hotel with a pool, lol).

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2007, 10:24:00 pm »
26, 27, 29, hopefully 30.

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2007, 01:07:00 am »
29th and 30th.
 
 I'm psyched. Can't wait to hear "Gossamer" live.
 
 I hope they change up the setlist from the typical Euro shows (minus the secret Berlin show).
 
 By the way, who else read about the 4 versions of Zeitgeist?
 
 ---
 
 Smashing Pumpkins to Fans, Indie Stores: Fuck You
 Warning: Excessive greed may cause baldness, artistic impotence
 
 Well, that's the nail in the coffin, then. Just when we were slightly, slightly starting to care about the Smashing Pumpkins again-- what with the release of their long-awaited new album Zeitgeist, and its not-terrible first single, "Tarantula"-- here comes something that makes us more than a bit mellon collie.
 
 Billy and company would like you to know that they fully support the extinction of the American independent record store at the hand of large, faceless, little-guy-crushing big boxes. They also support bleeding their fans dry. How? By releasing FOUR different versions of Zeitgeist.
 
 Best Buy and Target each get a version with an exclusive bonus track. So does iTunes. Like, a different one for each. Everybody else gets the regular version with no bonus tracks. So if you want all of the bonus tracks, you have to buy an album at Best Buy, an album at Target, and an album at iTunes. (Ooh, the presale iTunes version also comes with an extra set of Smashing Pumpkins covers by the Bravery, the Academy Is..., Panic at the Disco, Test Your Reflex, and +44. Ooh.)
 
 Making fans who've been waiting the better part of a decade for new Smashing Pumpkins tunes buy an album several times over is, you know, bullshit. My god, you have to go to Target (and only Target!) to get the version with the title track! That just ain't right.
 
 The Smashing Pumpkins are on tour. Whatever.
 
 Standard tracklist:
 
 01 Doomsday Clock
 02 7 Shades of Black
 03 Bleeding the Orchid
 04 That's the Way (My Love Is)
 05 Tarantula
 06 Starz
 07 United States
 08 Neverlost
 09 Bring the Light
 10 (Come On) Let's Go!
 11 For God and Country
 12 Pomp and Circumstances
 
 Best Buy:
 
 01. Doomsday Clock
 02. 7 Shades of Black
 03. Bleeding the Orchid
 04. That's the Way (My Love Is)
 05. Tarantula
 06. Starz
 07. United States
 08. Neverlost
 09. Death From Above (bonus track)
 10. Bring the Light
 11. (Come On) Let's Go!
 12. For God and Country
 13. Pomp and Circumstances
 
 Target:
 
 01 Doomsday Clock
 02 7 Shades of Black
 03 Bleeding the Orchid
 04 That's the Way (My Love Is)
 05 Tarantula
 06 Starz
 07 United States
 08 Neverlost
 09 Bring the Light
 10 (Come On) Let's Go!
 11 For God and Country
 12 Pomp aAnd Circumstances
 13 Zeitgeist (bonus track)
 
 iTunes:
 
 01 Doomsday Clock
 02 7 Shades of Black
 03 Bleeding the Orchid
 04 That's the Way (My Love Is)
 05 Tarantula
 06 Starz
 07 United States
 08 Neverlost
 09 Bring the Light
 10 (Come On) Let's Go!
 11 For God and Country
 12 Pomp and Circumstances
 13 Stellar (bonus track)

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2007, 09:33:00 am »
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
  $55?  I've stayed there for a couple of shows before, and will for the show on the 29th, but I don't think I've gotten rates better than $72 any of those times?  Are you sleepin with the manager?
The one on Patton Road/Avenue? There's a couple of Days Inn in town.
 
 It was the set rate going through DaysInn.com or hotels.com. Not a special AAA/corporate/whatever rate at all. Maybe it's less during the week then the weekend. (To be fair, after tax it was like $61.)
 
 If this is the same hotel you've stayed at, how is it? As big of a rathole as I'm thinking? Is the pool nice (my friend insisted we find a hotel with a pool, lol). [/b]
Yeh, that's the same one at 120 Patton Ave, in fact as soon as they announced the residency I posted a link to the hotel website on this forum.  It's nothing great, modest accomodations and good enough for a day or two, rooms have fridges and microwaves if  I recall, and free wireless. However I wouldn't even let Dupek swim in that pool.   I've never stayed there more than a night, it is close...walking...err stumbling... distance to OP.  What kind of room do you have for that price?

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2007, 10:14:00 am »
Slightly strange question, is anyone going on the 29th also planning to pick up an iphone that day?  
 
 I'm flying into Charlotte and there's an applestore there, but since they don't go on sale til 6, and there's likely to be a clusterphuck there and I still have two hours to drive I'm thinking of going straight into Asheville and trying to get one at one of the AT&T corporate stores.  
 
 So I guess I'm asking if anyone plans to be in line at one of the AT&T stores and willing to hold a place for me, in exchange for let's say unlimited beers at the show that night?

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 10:22:00 am »
What the locals are saying, I'm not going to post all of these but they're compiled at smashville.com:
 
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 Pumpkins at The Orange Peel may lead to more big shows
 
 
 Tony Kiss and Michael Flynn
 June 22, 2007 12:15 am
 The Orange Peel club has hosted its share of must-see concerts, from Dylan to Daughtry, but nothing can compare to the frenzy surrounding its sold-out, nine-show run by reunited alt-rock superstars Smashing Pumpkins. The band??s concerts start Saturday at the downtown entertainment venue.
 
 Out of action since 2000, the Pumpkins are back and playing their comeback U.S. shows at the Peel in what may be the biggest music event here since Elvis rocked the Civic Center in 1975.
 
 All 8,478 tickets sold in just minutes, in a burst of pure Pumpkins power that crashed an online ticketing service and frustrated many fans who were left empty-handed. But 20 percent of the tickets went to buyers in Asheville, and half were sold in North Carolina. Other buyers are traveling from as far as Canada, the Northeast and Midwest to see the band here.
 
 The Pumpkins are doing only a handful of U.S. shows, including a similar run at the legendary Fillmore auditorium in San Francisco and a few major American festivals. ??This is huge for us,? said Karen Ramshaw of Public Interest Projects, which owns and operates The Orange Peel.
 
 ??It??s an automatic home run for Asheville,? said Mike Rangel, co-owner of the Asheville Brewing Co. brewpub and restaurant, just a few blocks from The Orange Peel. ??It puts us up there with the big boys.???
 
 It??s also big for area restaurants, pubs and hotels, and may perhaps lead to more major shows for The Orange Peel.
 
 Why Asheville?
 Simply put, the band requested The Orange Peel, said music promoter Ashley Capps, of Knoxville, Tenn.
 
 Capps has booked his share of huge concerts at his AC Entertainment agency, including last weekend??s Bonnaroo festival. Through his longtime contacts in the entertainment industry, the band reached out with the idea of an East Coast ??residency? ?? a series of shows at one venue.
 
 ??We started the discussions two or three months ago,? he said. ??They were already interested in The Orange Peel at that point. It??s testimony to The Orange Peel, and to the Asheville community. The region has been so supportive of live music. Asheville is such a cool town.?
 
 While the band is not doing interviews, Capps believes that the Pumpkins were tuned in to Asheville. ??From what I understand, they are excited about spending a couple of weeks? here, he said.
 
 Capps and Orange Peel management began putting the concept together.
 
 Clearing the decks
 To make room for the Pumpkins, The Orange Peel had to cancel some already scheduled dates. Among the casualties was a June 29 joint CD-release show featuring Asheville bands Menage and Stephanie??s ID. The two groups scrambled to find new venues, with Stephanie??s ID relocating to the new Biltmore Garage music room near Biltmore Village on June 29, and Menage heading to the Westville Pub in West Asheville on July 1.
 
 ??We were extremely disappointed,? said Stephanie Morgan, lead singer with Stephanie??s ID. Still, Morgan said, ??If I (ran) the Orange Peel, I would have absolutely booked the Smashing Pumpkins over our band.?
 
 Ramshaw said the Pumpkins?? residency ??was not something that we felt that as a club, or for Asheville, that we could say no to.?
 
 The ticket tangle
 The club set an on-sale date of May 20 through its usual ticketing service, TicketWeb. When sales began, demand overwhelmed the system, and only a few fans managed to place orders. Switching to the much larger Ticketmaster network, sales were restarted May 21, and every admission sold in less than five minutes, club spokeswoman Liz Whalen said. ??I barely got any for myself,? Capps said.
 
 After staying at his computer for more than three hours on May 20, Asheville??s Cory Gates managed to buy tickets to all nine shows. As the site was going up and down May 20, Gates kept working the Web to get his tickets.
 
 ??It was just relentless, persistence and patience,? said Gates, 33, a longtime fan who saw the band play live in New England in the mid-??90s.
 
 Why did he go to the trouble? ??It??s a legendary band in a small setting,? he said about the appeal of the hometown performances. ??I don??t know if you can get much better.?
 
 After coming away from her computer empty-handed, Grace Robinson said tickets should have been available at the box office, which would have helped out local fans.
 
 ??They took the experience away from Asheville,? said Robinson, one of many locals who ended up with no tickets. ??I tried both days.?
 
 Whenever possible, Orange Peel management works to make tickets available for local residents, but the band wouldn??t budge on selling them all online, said Public Interest Projects President Pat Whalen.
 
 Most tickets were sold in the U.S., largely in the Southeast, with 20 percent in Asheville, 50 percent in North Carolina, and some sales in New York, the District of Columbia, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Ohio and Indiana, said Bryan Benson, talent buyer with AC Entertainment, which has worked with Ticketmaster to track sales.
 
 The only international purchases were from Canada, he said. ??Most people are only attending one concert,? he said.
 
 Business impact
 With more than 8,000 Pumpkins fans headed to town, Biltmore Avenue businesses will get an immediate punch, but the ripple will extend across town.
 
 ??When you have a sold-out show (at The Orange Peel), it??s good for all the restaurants? on the street, said Doug Beatty, founder of Barley??s Taproom and Pizzeria, 42 Biltmore Ave. He??s scheduling extra staff during the Pumpkins?? residency.
 
 At the Fine Arts Theatre, manager Neal Reed expects to see an increase in business, with some fans looking for something to do while waiting for a show. A few blocks away at Asheville Brewing, 77 Coxe Ave., Rangel is uncertain of the impact. ??We will get a surge? of hungry concert-goers, he predicted.
 
 Will parking be tight? Bet on it.
 
 But Asheville hotel and motel rooms are still available during the band??s run, said Marla Tambellini, director of marketing and public relations with the Asheville Area Chamber of Commerce.
 
 Public safety
 One person who won??t be in attendance is City Councilman Carl Mumpower, who has recently called for stepped-up drug enforcement at Asheville Civic Center concerts.
 
 ??I want their fans to obey our community??s drug laws and our police to step in when they don??t ?? nothing more,? he said about the Pumpkins?? shows.
 
 Unlike the civic center, The Orange Peel is a private facility, noted Mumpower, who said the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium ??smelled like an Amsterdam hash bar? after dropping by a March show from the band Ratdog, which features founding Grateful Dead member Bob Weir.
 
 ??I??m not interested in policing their house ?? our police need to do that,? he said about The Orange Peel.
 
 Asheville police Lt. Wally Welch said the department plans additional downtown patrols in connection with the Pumpkins?? concerts.
 
 ??There will be random vice operations going on in the surrounding parking lots,? he said, which will include uniformed and undercover officers on patrol. There are no plans to have Asheville police officers inside the venue, he said.
 
 What??s next
 A successful run by the Pumpkins could bring bigger acts to the club, Ramshaw said. ??We get turned down (by bands) way more often than groups agree to play,? she said.
 
 ??One of the reasons to do big shows is to do more big shows,???? Whalen said. ??The more great music we get in town, the more Asheville is on the map.?
 
 You??ll pay big-time to see sold-out Pumpkins shows
 By Tony Kiss, Tkiss@CITIZEN-TIMES.com
 
 No actual tickets have been issued for any shows by the Smashing Pumpkins, but that hasn??t stopped ticket brokers or fans from offering them online ?? for steep prices.
 
 Originally sold for $20 (a price set by the band), the GotTickets.com Web site has a pair on sale for $950. TicketsNow.com has a pair for $890. At the online auction site eBay, another pair is up for bid at $450.
 
 But Orange Peel management is going to great lengths to thwart scalpers. Official sales were limited to two per person per show. Anyone who successfully ordered tickets online must bring the receipt, photo ID and the credit card used to the club box office. They (and any guest) will then be issued a wristband and escorted into the club.
 
 This is where scalpers might step into the picture, meeting a customer before the show, and actually stepping into the box office with them to complete the transaction.
 
 ??If you bought two tickets online, you could sell your second ticket and bring the stranger as your guest,? said Karen Ramshaw of Public Interest Projects, which owns The Orange Peel. ??There is nothing you can do to stop that.? But she advised extreme caution in dealing with scalpers and being certain they can actually deliver a ticket.
 
 Any attempt to break the club rules ??will result in the ticket being confiscated and the purchaser banned from the club,? according to The Orange Peel??s Web site.

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Re: Smashing Pumpkins Roll (it had to be done)
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 11:17:00 am »
I initially passed on these Asheville shows, because, well, they're in North Carolina. But I'm now regretting that. If anyone has an extra ticket that they'd like to see go to a fan and not a scalper, please PM me.