I am half with jadetree on this......
lets see....
The vines album is surprisingly much better than their live show. The album is actualy pretty good.
As for the strokes, well a lot lot of you lot are fickle, fey, fraudsters. You support them on the way up, then when they get somewhere you try and knock them back down.
The strokes may not be the greatest rock band ever, but are they really any worse or better than interpol or the white stripes? Is this it? is a pretty enjoyable listen and when they supported doves, they were one of the few support bands, I had never heard of before the show, to really get me to sit up and pay attention.