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mankie

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2003, 03:50:00 pm »
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  nope, just a good photo....
 
 too toothy/gummy to be considered super hot. A bit all American mum looking. she could have played Trisha in Hapiness.....
 
 But hey some people like the mummy look, dont they Mankster.
The "perfect yank teeth that are obviously caps" look does nothing for me either, except make me think of the saying "WIIIIIIIILBUR"

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2003, 05:51:00 pm »
Just for shit, that new music is.  Damn damn damn.  Though she's been headed that way for sometime.  I'm listening to the "album teaser" clips now -- #4 sounds pretty good.  That's one out of 12.
 
 And the song with the chorus "you rock me all night long" -- man, if this is Liz Phair singing that should be "you fuck me like a dog all night long."
 
 Guess everything changes.  But does it have to get wimpy, too???

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2003, 07:35:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bags:
 Guess everything changes.  But does it have to get wimpy, too???
That happens when you become the 'All American Soccer Mom'.   :(

mankie

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2003, 09:42:00 am »
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 That happens when you become the 'All American Soccer Mom'.     :(  
 
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I don't know jag...she's pretty damn sweet for a soccer mum. When I was coaching kids the soccer mums I had to deal with were the stereo-typical frumpy jewish mums who would always have to leave practice early because she had a manicure appointment, counselling or some other lame-arse excuse. I'd be thinking to myself, "your nails are the least of your problems honey".

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2003, 02:34:00 pm »
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 That happens when you become the 'All American Soccer Mom'.        :(      
 
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I don't know jag...she's pretty damn sweet for a soccer mum. When I was coaching kids the soccer mums I had to deal with were the stereo-typical frumpy jewish mums who would always have to leave practice early because she had a manicure appointment, counselling or some other lame-arse excuse. I'd be thinking to myself, "your nails are the least of your problems honey". [/b]
Believe me, I agree with you....but Markie was right about her having that ideal All American Mom look. Let's say she could be on the cover of Soccer Mom's R Hot (the mens version). LOL. Not the image I'd go for but some guys like that. You know, different strokes for different folks.

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2003, 12:05:00 pm »
The new album will be released June 24, but AMG already has a review.  Have to say, sadly, that it echoes the buzz I've heard on this albu (not to mention the album audio teaser on Phair's website, which plays about 20 seconds of every song....yuck).
 
 AMG REVIEW: Who knew that all Liz Phair ever wanted was to be a pop star? Surely, her debut, Exile in Guyville, with its cinematic lo-fi production and frankness, never suggested as much, nor did its cleaner sequel, Whip-Smart, even if her appearance in negligee on the cover of Rolling Stone did imply she wanted a wider audience. In retrospect, perhaps the streamlined surfaces of Whitechocolatespaceegg were a bid for the big time, but it was undercut by songs of motherhood, marriage, and remnants of her time as an indie queen. All of that is a distant memory on her long-delayed eponymous fourth album, where she makes a long-delayed stab at superstardom, glamming herself up like a Maxim MILF of the Month and inexplicably pitching herself somewhere between Sheryl Crow and Avril Lavigne, on one side working with Michael Penn and adult alternative singer/songwriter Pete Yorn and on the other hooking up with 2003's hitmakers du jour the Matrix (not wanting to lose her aging core audience, she began her support tour for the album opening for the thirty-something darlings of the early '00s, the Flaming Lips, even if her new music was a far cry from indie). As "Extraordinary" starts the album with a heavy guitar downstroke, it's clear that Liz Phair has piled nearly all her chips on making it as a pop act, delivering music that not just fits comfortably with Lavigne's, but follows her sounds and stance, right down to the insipid lyrics. This, to say the least, is disarming, not just to die-hard fans of Exile who could never have dreamed that, of all the directions she could have gone, she chose this, but because such sentiments sound painfully trite coming from a 36-year-old woman. Throughout the album, these sparkly banalities come fast and furious, sometimes interrupted by something a little deeper, sometimes sounding catchy enough to sound pleasant in passing if you overlook both the lyrics and the fact that they're written by Phair, who used to be one of the sharpest writers in rock.
 
 There's nothing wrong with a change of pace, but there's a startling lack of depth in either the words, which are entirely too literal, or the music, whose hooks are at once too obvious and not ingratiating enough. Then, there's the weird realization that Phair has so little to say on Liz Phair. While this very well could be her most directly confessional album â?? nearly every song is in the first person, with many songs drawing parallels to her circulated life story â?? there's no insight here, particularly when compared to, yes, her earlier work. It's not just that "The Divorce Song" details a messy breakup better than either of the divorce songs here (although that's an important, telling truth), it's that the parenting song is confused and condescending, it's that the endless songs about sleeping with twenty-something guys are littered with ridiculous lyrics ("I'm starting to think young guys rule," "I want to play Xbox on your floor"), and it's that she can't manage to write either a funny or sexy ode to her underwear on "Favorite." It's also that toward the end of this deliberate bid for the mainstream, she tosses in the embarrassingly "naughty" "HWC," where she extols the virtues of semen in the hair and on the skin ("Without you I'm just another Dorian Grey"); sure, it might seemingly break taboos, but what good is explicitness if it is only smarmy, with none of the humor or candor of "Flower" or "Glory." Yes, let's not compare a new record to an LP that's ten years old (although she invites those comparisons with a song like "HWC"), but Exile in Guyville has such a lasting impact, it's impossible to shake its memory when hearing her other, newer works. Liz Phair is running away from that shadow on Liz Phair, creating a record that is pretty much the polar opposite of that album, a shiny bright affair that wants nothing more than to be taken as a confection, even when it tries to dig deeper. It may be that Phair no longer has much to say â?? three albums after Exile, that's looking more like an anomaly in her catalog â?? but even so, the clothing and trappings of mainstream pop don't fit her well, and Liz Phair is a fascinatingly awkward, clumsy album. â?? Stephen Thomas Erlewine

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2003, 06:14:00 pm »
Now you can check out her babe factor based on non-airbrushed appearances:
 
 Late Night With Liz
 
 Mark your calendars! Liz Phair will be performing on The Tonight Show w/Jay Leno on Tuesday, June 24th! She'll also be on the Jimmy Kimmel Show on June 27th.

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2003, 08:45:00 pm »
According to the New York Times she's basically committing "career suicide" with her new album by trying to be a 36-year-old Britney Spears.  It's a shame, because she used to be capable of writing really cool, stripped down, funny songs.  I saw her once as a solo act, and she impressed me with her stage presence, and I also liked the way she accompanied herself on guitar, playing cooler rhythm riffs than one normally gets from the chick-with-guitar-singing-folk-tunes formula.
 
 The important thing, though, is she's still hot.
 
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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2003, 09:38:00 am »
Basically, if you put any halfway decent chick in outfits and poses like these, she could be called "hot". Sadly, there is nothing special here about Liz Phair, and I think she's kind of a disgrace, actually. She has cast her pearls before swine, in a sense...

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2003, 09:46:00 am »
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  Basically, if you put any halfway decent chick in outfits and poses like these, she could be called "hot". Sadly, there is nothing special here about Liz Phair, and I think she's kind of a disgrace, actually. She has cast her pearls before swine, in a sense...
part of what use to make her hot were her lyrics, but that won't be the case anymore

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2003, 10:05:00 am »
She was in one of the Mens magazine's I read this weekend while on the train (Stuff or Blender or FHM).  Anyway, the headline was MILF.
 
 Tremendously funny to me.  And I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2003, 10:54:00 am »
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   Anyway, the headline was MILF.
 
what does this mean? is it an insider thing for men only, or can you tell me  :)

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2003, 10:57:00 am »
i googled it up... milf - mother i'd like to f*ck
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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2003, 10:58:00 am »
In Smackies case it means
 
 Mommas, I Love to Fondle

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Re: Liz Phair is hot
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2003, 11:02:00 am »
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
  In Smackies case it means
 
 Mommas, I Love to Fondle
I'm an admitted spooner.
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