Author Topic: Save Merriweather  (Read 4664 times)

hitman

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Save Merriweather
« on: September 05, 2004, 01:46:00 am »
Save Merriweather
 
 I was at the Cake show tonight, and there was a petition going around to try and stop the planned development of the area.  
 
 I know that there have been many on this board that aren't particularly overjoyed with Merriweather, but I think it is a worth while cause.  Do we really need another strip mall anwhere for that matter?
 
 The IMP boys have done great things in improving MPP.  I wouldn't want their efforts to be for nothing, and would also like them to keep moving forward with this.  
 
 Please check it out.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2004, 01:05:00 pm »
I actually like Merriweather as far as outdoor places go.  I was at the show as well.  I hadn't been there for quite some time and I was surprised to see the 9:30 bar there.  Very nice addition, as I'd rather sit in a small, dark bar than pavillion seating while waiting for the headliner.  According the folks inside, the pavillion will become office space if it is torn down.  Its mostly up to the people who live in the area to make the decision.  I'd hate to see the much larger, much more difficult to drive into, concrete Nissan gain a monopoly on the larger shows.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2004, 01:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by hitman:
  Save Merriweather
 
 I was at the Cake show tonight, and there was a petition going around to try and stop the planned development of the area.  
 
 I know that there have been many on this board that aren't particularly overjoyed with Merriweather, but I think it is a worth while cause.  Do we really need another strip mall anwhere for that matter?
 
 The IMP boys have done great things in improving MPP.  I wouldn't want their efforts to be for nothing, and would also like them to keep moving forward with this.  
 
 Please check it out.
How was the show? How's Cake's new album?

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2004, 01:36:00 pm »
Hitman, I agree with you 100%, and will do what I can.  Now that IMP is running the place, I'm certainly hoping that MWP will be given a chance, but I have the feeling residents in the community really aren't aware at all of how/what MWP is doing.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2004, 12:26:00 pm »
[/qb][/QUOTE]How was the show? How's Cake's new album? [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Good show.  Never had seen Cake before.  Love the rattle, the singer is entertaining.  Good crowd and easy seating with pavillion GA.  Lots of crowd participation.  New songs sound like last two records.  Might go see them at DC Chili Fest (?) if it seems they will be allowed a decent set as far as length goes. Songs in no order missing maybe two:
 Comfort Eagle/Frank Sinatra/Distance/Daria/Stickshifts/I Will Survive/Sheep/Never There/Wheels/No Phone/Carbon Monoxide

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2004, 12:55:00 pm »
How can office space be more appealing than a concert venue with such history? With office space; comes large strip malls and town centers featuring such classic stores as Target and Borders. Thats always dreadful. And don't forget the year-round traffic it brings. But maybe thats what the neighborhood wants.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2004, 01:32:00 pm »
The list of artists who have graced the stage at MPP is pretty impresive. Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, KISS, Bob Dylan and Radiohead are just a few of the amazing shows seen at MPP. It would be a shame to see the place be torn down to make room for office space and condominiums.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2004, 05:36:00 pm »
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  How can office space be more appealing than a concert venue with such history? With office space; comes large strip malls and town centers featuring such classic stores as Target and Borders. Thats always dreadful. And don't forget the year-round traffic it brings. But maybe thats what the neighborhood wants.
By my thinking, it's not more comfortable for the residents. Instead, it's more comfortable for those with big, cushy bank accounts and stock holdings who stand to make even bigger bank accounts and stock holdings.
 
 Personally, I don't think it has a damned thing to do with what the neighbors want but instead has everything to do with what a very small group of investors want regardless of what might be best for the community.
 
 Seth, care to enlighten us about any of this? Suggestions? (Besides showing our support.         ;)        )
 
 Any of you geeks want to create an online petition that we could easily send around that would generate a lot more action? Maybe get some of the legal eagles involved just to get the wording down. I'll do what I can but I suck at those things. I can, at very least, get lots of them out...without spamming, of course.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 06:49:00 pm »
Any of you geeks want to create an online petition that we could easily send around that would generate a lot more action? Maybe get some of the legal eagles involved just to get the wording down. I'll do what I can but I suck at those things. I can, at very least, get lots of them out...without spamming, of course. [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Similar stuff is already being done - someone posted the website at the top of this page.  From everything I've read on this already, Rouse Co. is going to sell the venue.  The best that can happen in that it stays a music venue.  If thats the case, it will become a indoors venue, or maybe a retractable indoor/outdoors place.  The fliers I've read, along with the website, encourages people to write letters and of course, give money.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2004, 11:42:00 am »
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Originally posted by hitman:
  Save Merriweather
 
 I was at the Cake show tonight, and there was a petition going around to try and stop the planned development of the area.  
 
 I know that there have been many on this board that aren't particularly overjoyed with Merriweather, but I think it is a worth while cause.  Do we really need another strip mall anwhere for that matter?
 
 The IMP boys have done great things in improving MPP.  I wouldn't want their efforts to be for nothing, and would also like them to keep moving forward with this.  
 
 Please check it out.
How was the show? How's Cake's new album? [/b]
Don't know about Cake's new album. I thought the bad said that it drops first week of October.
 The show was good.  I had never seen them before, and was always interested.  And for $10 how can you complain?

hitman

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2004, 11:51:00 am »
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
   
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Originally posted by helicon1:
  How can office space be more appealing than a concert venue with such history? With office space; comes large strip malls and town centers featuring such classic stores as Target and Borders. Thats always dreadful. And don't forget the year-round traffic it brings. But maybe thats what the neighborhood wants.
By my thinking, it's not more comfortable for the residents. Instead, it's more comfortable for those with big, cushy bank accounts and stock holdings who stand to make even bigger bank accounts and stock holdings.
 
 Personally, I don't think it has a damned thing to do with what the neighbors want but instead has everything to do with what a very small group of investors want regardless of what might be best for the community.
 
 Seth, care to enlighten us about any of this? Suggestions? (Besides showing our support.          ;)         )
 
 Any of you geeks want to create an online petition that we could easily send around that would generate a lot more action? Maybe get some of the legal eagles involved just to get the wording down. I'll do what I can but I suck at those things. I can, at very least, get lots of them out...without spamming, of course. [/b]
Yeah, I wish this was as easy as blaming it on the residents, but this time it really isn't.   The residents actually don't want to see anything done with MPP.  Because they know what the alternative could be, another office building and strip mall, which Columbianites aren't excited about at all, because it certainly isn't pleasing to the eye, and it doesn't fit in with upper white middle class values.  (That's my daily stab at Columbia)
 
  It's all about money, and apparently Rouse doesn't feel that MPP is bringing it in like it used to.  They say the number of shows are down, attendance is down, resulting in profits being down.  I am sure that this may have been true in the past to a certain degree, but it isn't like Rouse or Clear Channel were doing much to make it better, or to lure more acts.  Then, fortunately IMP takes it over, and look at what they've done.  They have improved the sound system, lighting system, video monitors, as well as food, the grounds, and the area behind the stage.  They are looking toward the future with their improvements, and I would hate to see that effort go to waste.
 
 I'm overjoyed to see a group taking things on to try and save the pavilion.  I think that turning it into another indoor pavilion would not only dampen the look and original spirit of the facilty, but I feel like then it would be even more difficult to lure shows there, with all of the other indoor facilities around the Baltimore/DC Metro area.  To me, it would seem that MPP could be put on the National List of Historic Landmarks or something for Historic preservation, because it is one of Frank Gehry's first projects, and he is a major force in architecture now all over the world.

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 12:59:00 am »
I was hoping Seth would see this and shed some light on it.  I guess we'll see.

Seth Hurwitz

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2004, 06:47:00 am »
wellâ?¦
 
 what we have here is a classic story
 
 a company builds a town
 
 whose town is it then? the company's, or the people that live there?
 
 it is more profitable for the Rouse Co to build something else on those parking lots. the problem is, they're not weighing that against the long-term effects of stripping Columbia of it's character by taking MPP away. but, they claim it's simply their prerogative to make that choice.
 
 the people have spoken and, thankfully, have turned the full corner from NIMBY to YIMBY. in fact, I have never seen such a display of residents actually cognizant of an asset they have, in the face of the occasional inconvenience. it's truly amazing how much they really do appreciate this place. at one time, Columbia residents probably wanted to close it. but now it looks like their kids have grown up and taken over.
 
 at this point, all I can do is sit back and watch Rouse & the County duke it out. I've done my part, which was to at least remove the argument that MPP was obsolete.

hitman

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2004, 01:14:00 am »
Here Here Seth.  Good way to put it.  I for one will keep my fingers crossed.  I love leaving my school at night when there is a concert, and hearing it in the night.  I could walk to MPP from my school.
 
 I think Rouse and Co. are hypocrites.  Here it is they have this big planned 'hood idea, where everyone is supposed to get along and live in harmony among the races and socio-economic classes.  BULLSHIT!  I work in Columbia, and let me tell ya, it is sad to say that segragation still has a slight pulse.  They way they draw district lines for schools is disgusting.  Some villages are black, and some are jewish.  There isn't that much mingling going on.  And it is pretty bad that my wife and I are both teachers in the county (been married two years) and between us have 11 years of experience, and can't afford to buy a house in the county!

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Re: Save Merriweather
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2004, 05:01:00 am »
They pave paradise and put up a parking lot.
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