The Dubai Port Deal

[HoyaSaxa03]

this whole issue is just pure red meat for the ignorant masses who say to themselves:
 
 hmmm, i don't really know anything about international relations or our new allies in this war on terror, but it just doesn't seem right that some country with "arab" in its name is "running our ports"
 
 in denouncing bush, lindsay graham said that this was "politically foolish" of him to do, which is completely correct, it's POLITICALLY idiotic because of all the fucking xenophobic morons who live in this country and can't process the higher brain functioning necessary to comprehend this deal and who are susceptible to red meat demagoguery by politicians on the left and on the right .... but that says nothing about the PUBLIC POLICY implications of the deal
 
 this issue is probably dead in the water, but noone who is against the deal is actually talking about real issues, they're just using bush's weak political posture to rile up the blind-faith-ignorant masses

Thanks for unmuddying the waters, HoyaP. We all trust your sage Ivy League take on the "big picture".  Your educational dollar is obviously being well-spent.
 
 BTW, it's too bad Cheney can't just go out and shoot someone else to take the heat off of Bush.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
 
 hmmm, i don't really know anything about international relations or our new allies in this war on terror, but it just doesn't seem right that some country with "arab" in its name is "running our ports"
 

i havent gotten that far yet in my reasoning. I am still stuck on "why is a company from ANY other country running our ports???"  (or  your  ports, for the sake of details)

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
 
 this issue is probably dead in the water, but noone who is against the deal is actually talking about real issues,

so what are the real issues, hoya?

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
 i havent gotten that far yet in my reasoning. I am still stuck on "why is a company from ANY other country running our ports???"  (or  your  ports, for the sake of details)

a completely legitimate issue ... my point is that all these people opposing the deal aren't discussing the deal on public policy grounds, they're just using demagoguery to stir up xenophobic emotions in people like dupek
 
 maybe companies from other countries should not be running key infrastructures like ports on our soil ... but we're not having a reasoned discussion about this issue, talking about what we've done previously with our ports, discussing what responsibilities these companies have, etc ... we're simply freaking out and appealing to the basest instincts of our most uneducated citizenry
 
 by the way, it's convenient that UAE has "Arab" in it's name, isn't it? makes it alot easier for the real morons who might not understand what or where "Yemen" is to get riled up

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  just using demagoguery to stir up xenophobic emotions in people like dupek
 it's convenient that UAE has "Arab" in it's name, isn't it? makes it alot easier

With 'allies in the war on terror' like these, who needs enemies?

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
  so what are the real issues, hoya?

the real issues are best dealt with by technocrats who actually understand the security implications of the deal, not politicians ... does anyone even know the details of what these companies do at the ports?
 
 all i'm saying is that this deal should be considered by people outside of the political sphere who aren't susceptible to this political "piling on" against a weakened president ... perhaps it comes out through a detailed review that it just isn't safe to have this company "running" our ports ... fine, don't let them ... i'm not supporting the deal, i'm just sick of the political posturing

[sonickteam2]

the war on terror!!! I love that phrase.  it sounds so valiant! i mean, terror, thats a pretty big foe.
 
   did you guys ever win that war on drugs?
 
  the war on terror seems even tougher. But hopefully if the US can concur terror, we can start the next battle
 
  "The War On Fear!!"
 
   or
 
   "The War on Sadness"
 
  or  "The War on Lonlieness"

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
  "The War on Lonlieness"

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[Guiny]

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
  the war on terror!!! I love that phrase.  it sounds so valiant! i mean, terror, thats a pretty big foe.
 
   did you guys ever win that war on drugs?
 
  the war on terror seems even tougher. But hopefully if the US can concur terror, we can start the next battle
 
  "The War On Fear!!"
 
   or
 
   "The War on Sadness"
 
  or  "The War on Lonlieness"

How about "The war on Indie"
 
 We already won the "War on HFS in DC"

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[sonickteam2]

How about the War on Fat!
 
  you guys are getting your asses WHOOPED in that

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  Bring it on, maple leaf boy!

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
  How about the War on Fat!
 
  you guys are getting your asses WHOOPED in that

I'd have to agree with you there, that war has been kicking my ass for a few years now.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Tell me about it. I ran 20 miles on Saturday, and my weight was still up today by two pounds over what it was on Friday.
 
 

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   

Originally posted by Thom Foolerie:
  How about the War on Fat!
 
  you guys are getting your asses WHOOPED in that

I'd have to agree with you there, that war has been kicking my ass for a few years now. [/b]