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saco

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2004, 06:58:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bags:
  So how many seats might fit in that bandstand area?  Doesn't seem like it'd be much...
There are plenty of tables/seats/chairs in the bandstand area, as well as the bar area stage right.   The only standing room is in the aisles and a square right by the stage of about 25 square feet.   Anybody sitting what appears to be the best seats in the house before showtime (right near this open area in front of the stage) are soon made unhappy by people standing in front of them.
 
 I saw the Gourds and Split Lip Rayfield there a few weeks ago in the bandstand.  
 Good sized crowd, great show.  But there are so many tables even out there, any uptempo act starts from behind because the entire crowd is sitting down.  
 
 I agree for an act that is more natural to enjoy seated, Birchmere is tops.  But ANY act where you may want to stand AT ALL, its frustrating to be essentially tied to your seat.  
 
 The first two Steve Earle shows I saw were solo acoustic at the 9:30 followed by a full on rock show with the Dukes at the Birchmere.  I'm sure there were other reasons why this happened, but I've always thought someone did it just to fuck with the fans for the fun of it.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2004, 10:17:00 pm »
wow . . . i posted this at work today for fun, and by the time i get back, there's a quantum going on.  here is how attend the birchmere in style, in my opinion only.  if it is a show inside the hall, get there when the box office opens to get a good lottery number for getting in.  i think it's about five o clock on the days of shows; then go and have a wonderful dinner somewhere and get the drinky drink on, to start the night off right; then, as some have pointed out, birchmere is not in the "greatest part of alexandria" and some cabbies will advise you to call only when you are ready to leave--they never just go to "that part of town"--then other cabbies say those first cabbies are lying; i do advise taking a cab there because the lot is smaller and sometimes they really pack them in, which can be a bitch if you want to leave early; then get there half and hour, or so, before they start to call lottery numbers to be let in and boom.
 
 if you are seeing a show on the other stage, an hour is good to get there before hand . . . and come on, you get there an "hour" before hand; go look around, check out the store, order more drinks, go for the big tables on the right first, sit with anyone, order pitchers, and have a great time.  the other stage is better because you can talk and smoke and be rowdy, but for sound con-e-sewers, the main hall is the best buy.
 
 and i still suffer the chances of parking on eighth street to have a close walk to see what i know will be a kick ass, small club venue show at nine thirty.  thank you, seth.  
 
 and is it me, because i honestly don't know, from only visiting the place about three times, but is the crowd at black cat, black cat, some spare change for the homeless, sort of a bit snotty; you know mate, like skool girl english style snotty, and those damn lisa lobe glasses.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2004, 10:49:00 pm »
But...
 
 Don't they give out lottery numbers at 5, then start calling them off at 6? Makes it tough to get dinner elsewhere and make it back in time. Maybe if you run to RTs.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2004, 01:08:00 pm »
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  But...
 
 Don't they give out lottery numbers at 5, then start calling them off at 6? Makes it tough to get dinner elsewhere and make it back in time. Maybe if you run to RTs.
Yeah, I'm curious what time do they start calling lottery numbers?

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2004, 01:25:00 pm »
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  But...
 
 Don't they give out lottery numbers at 5, then start calling them off at 6? Makes it tough to get dinner elsewhere and make it back in time. Maybe if you run to RTs.
So basically this means I have to leave for VA around 4:15 for a band that will go on sometime around 9:00.  That's insane.  (And on a weeknight, that's leaving work two hours early, for a LOCAL show -- not even Nissan   :eek:  )
 
 I would have thought the advantage to a bandstand show is that it's not all seated.  If it is all seated, why bother?

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2004, 02:09:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bags:
   
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  But...
 
 Don't they give out lottery numbers at 5, then start calling them off at 6? Makes it tough to get dinner elsewhere and make it back in time. Maybe if you run to RTs.
So basically this means I have to leave for VA around 4:15 for a band that will go on sometime around 9:00.  That's insane.  (And on a weeknight, that's leaving work two hours early, for a LOCAL show -- not even Nissan    :eek:   )
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Yup, the conundrum for me as well. (tough to get to 6 pm shows at 9:30 as well, but those shows are rare. But why I missed Fogerty!).
 
 This past summer, from VA, mid-week, I left at 5/5:30 pm to a show at Birchmere starting at 8 pm. Took me an hour. The parking lot was 75% full and yes, there were no remaining seats viewable. So, yeah, if I plan to go out there during the week, I either need to leave work early, or show up late and not care where I sit. Or, as I did that night, sit in the bar and watch the crappy videofeed. (Good idea, but the video / monitor needs to be adjusted).
 Do people not go to many shows so taking off of work every so often is not a large issue? Or, does everyone live or work close to a venue where time is not an issue?

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2004, 02:12:00 pm »
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  the magnetic fields shows this week are in the bandstand, but they are all seated. still, that's a good show to be seated for. i remember last time they played here it was at 930, and during the last song of the set someone's cell phone went off at a very quiet part and merritt said, "next time turn your cell phones off." you knew he wouldn't be back at the club after that. he's a bitter, bitter man. should be some great shows, though, they've been playing lots of pre-69 love songs stuff like "smoke and mirrors" and "strange powers" and the like.
Speaking of..just rec'd Birchmere's email:
 Thu&Fri. Dec. 2&3: MAGNETIC FIELDS w/ Darren Hanlon -10pm- Late Show in the Bandstand! $22.50(Adv), $25(DoS) - This is an ALL SEATED Bandstand show, without Tables.  Dinner & Doors 8pm.  www.houseoftomorrow.com (Friday 12/3 is SOLD OUT!)

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2004, 02:17:00 pm »
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Originally posted by El Tee:
  Do people not go to many shows so taking off of work every so often is not a large issue? Or, does everyone live or work close to a venue where time is not an issue?
The majority of the shows I see in the DC area are at the 9:30 and Black Cat. I rarely venture out to Virginia for shows.
 
 I work in Dupont and can walk to the BC or take a bus to the 9:30.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2004, 02:42:00 pm »
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  [Isn't Birchmere in gang territory-  the "Southside Locos"?  
Gotta watch out for those Southside locos!   ;)
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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2004, 04:19:00 pm »
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  wow . . . i posted this at work today for fun, and by the time i get back, there's a quantum going on.  here is how attend the birchmere in style, in my opinion only.  if it is a show inside the hall, get there when the box office opens to get a good lottery number for getting in.  i think it's about five o clock on the days of shows; then go and have a wonderful dinner somewhere and get the drinky drink on, to start the night off right; then, as some have pointed out, birchmere is not in the "greatest part of alexandria" and some cabbies will advise you to call only when you are ready to leave--they never just go to "that part of town"--then other cabbies say those first cabbies are lying; i do advise taking a cab there because the lot is smaller and sometimes they really pack them in, which can be a bitch if you want to leave early; then get there half and hour, or so, before they start to call lottery numbers to be let in and boom.
 
 if you are seeing a show on the other stage, an hour is good to get there before hand . . . and come on, you get there an "hour" before hand; go look around, check out the store, order more drinks, go for the big tables on the right first, sit with anyone, order pitchers, and have a great time.  the other stage is better because you can talk and smoke and be rowdy, but for sound con-e-sewers, the main hall is the best buy.
 
 and i still suffer the chances of parking on eighth street to have a close walk to see what i know will be a kick ass, small club venue show at nine thirty.  thank you, seth.  
 
 and is it me, because i honestly don't know, from only visiting the place about three times, but is the crowd at black cat, black cat, some spare change for the homeless, sort of a bit snotty; you know mate, like skool girl english style snotty, and those damn lisa lobe glasses.
um, that sounds dreadfully complicated for going to a show. 930 isn't nearly as complex. i've never been to birchmere though, and its like 5 miles away. was considering magnetic fields
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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2004, 05:49:00 pm »
i'm sorry.  i always cheat when i see a show at birchmere.  i get a room in alexandria for the evening when i see a show there.  that way i get my intoxications on before and after, and the blessed cabs, whom i all love, and the restaurants, and the drinking.  now i must say, that the times i saw shows there, when i had already been there to get my ticket and lottery number, i came back and they started seating maybe an hour before the show.  or maybe i had too much intoxications on.  where's the "all power knowledge crew" with all the answers of any topic that some of the forum's finest possess, when i need them.  bring me your advanced knowledge.  I remember showing up and sitting with friends, ordering drinks and not waiting that long.  but then again, i like watching hooker monkees on the sifl and olly show.
 
 you know what i really hate: going to shows by myself; especially shows of "jambands" where all the "folks" think you're the undercover operator.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2004, 06:02:00 pm »
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  you know what i really hate: going to shows by myself; especially shows of "jambands" where all the "folks" think you're the undercover operator.
Once at an RFK Dead show this guy followed me around the parking lot for a while, telling everyone within earshot that I was a narc.  That kind of sucked.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2004, 06:05:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
 Once at an RFK Dead show this guy followed me around the parking lot for a while, telling everyone within earshot that I was a narc.  That kind of sucked.
This story was funnier when I saw who posted it...So, what would motivate someone to do that???  You weren't wearing a tie, Chutney, were you?    :p

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2004, 06:15:00 pm »
I think I had a  really short crewcut at the time.  I didn't exactly blend-in with the crowd.

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Re: birchmere versus nine thirty
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2004, 10:21:00 am »
I'm coming into this conversation late, but there's no comparison between the two. 930 is a million times better (imho of course) The only advantage the Shushmere has over the 930 is free parking.
 
 The staff, atmosphere and regulars all suck at the shushmere, regardless of who your going to see. You can enjoy yourself at an average show at the 930 but it has to be a terrific band to even tolerate the shushmere.
 
 ....but that's just me.