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sonickteam2

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New Music Magazine for Old People!
« on: November 18, 2003, 01:35:00 pm »
maybe worth checking out.
 
 
 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=495&ncid=495&e=7&u=/ap/20031117/ap_en_mu/music_tracks
 
 
 New Music Magazine Is Aimed at Older Fans
 Mon Nov 17, 3:59 PM ET  
 
 By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press Writer
 
 NEW YORK - Publishing executive John Rollins, who witnessed the infancy of Vibe and Spin magazines, had a revelation one day when he dropped a Buena Vista Social Club album into his CD player.
 
   
 
 "The type of music I was listening to at home over the weekend was not the music that could be found in the pages of either of the magazines I helped found," he said.
 
 
 So he decided to start a new one, aimed at the burgeoning market of adults over 30 who buy music. Tracks makes its debut on newsstands Tuesday.
 
 
 Sting's blue eyes stare out from the cover, which promises that Tracks is about "music built to last." Besides Sting, there are articles about Cassandra Wilson (news), Robert Plant (news) and R.E.M (news - web sites). A lengthy and eclectic CD review section features pieces on Dolly Parton (news), Rufus Wainright, Al Green (news), Van Morrison (news), Death Cab for Cutie and Basement Jaxx.
 
 
 Over the past decade, music buyers over age 30 have become the majority. They accounted for 56 percent of the music purchased in 2002, up from 46 percent a decade earlier, according to the Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites).
 
 
 The joke â?? one with a bitter ring of truth for the music industry â?? is that older listeners are the majority because so many younger people are downloading music for free online.
 
 
 Older listeners wield formidable purchasing power. Rollins, who joined Spin two years after it started in 1985 and helped found Vibe in 1993, enticed investors with statistics showing people aged 30 and over bought $7.5 billion worth of music in 2001, up from $3.2 billion a decade earlier.
 
 
 Billboard's current Top 50 album chart contained 21 discs by artists who arguably appeal most to this group, including Rod Stewart (news), the Eagles, Bette Midler (news), Norah Jones (news), Toby Keith (news), Sarah McLachlan (news) and Barbra Streisand (news).
 
 
 That doesn't include discs by Ryan Adams (news), the Strokes or John Mayer (news), whose music â?? if not the names â?? should be familiar to older listeners.
 
 
 "We've clearly seen that there is a very large, very significant part of the music-listening and music-buying audience that is not being spoken to by any of the existing music media â?? not just magazines, but TV channels and radio stations," said Alan Light, Tracks' editor-in-chief.
 
 
 Rolling Stone is the magazine that resonates most with this audience, but it has kept its focus squarely on teens and young adults. Jessica Simpson (news), vacuuming in her underwear, graced the most recent Rolling Stone cover.
 
 
 Blender, The Source, Vibe and Spin are all successful reaching groups with different tastes, but are also aimed at young people.
 
 
 Still, there are plenty of places outside of music magazines, such as newspapers, where artists can reach their listeners, said Bill Flanagan, senior vice president of MTV Networks.
 
 
 "It would be misleading to base your business plan on the assumption that people who read music magazines only read music magazines," said Flanagan, former editor of Musician magazine, which sought this audience during the 1980s.
 
 
 Tracks' success depends in part on convincing artists that the magazine is a place where they can talk more in depth about their music than they can elsewhere, he said.
 
 
 Despite the void of U.S. magazines trying to reach this audience, it's a thriving business in Britain with publications like Mojo and Uncut. Mojo is more focused on nostalgia and appeals to fanatics instead of casual fans, Light said.
 
 
 "When I read Mojo, I come away thinking that music used to be really cool, and that's a very dangerous place to be," he said. "Music is still very cool."
 
   
 
 
 Tracks' start coincides with a severe music industry sales slump. But although 60 percent of new magazines never make it through their first year, the climate for start-ups is better now than it has been for several years, said Samir A. Husni, a journalism professor at the University of Mississippi who publishes an annual guide to magazines.
 
 Tracks has a good business plan, but it's unclear whether the people who are buying this music will want to buy a magazine, Husni said.
 
 Many of the discs successful with this audience, like Jones' debut and the "O Brother Where Art Thou" soundtrack, started slow and built by word of mouth, Light said.
 
 Tracks is trying the same approach with a conservative business plan.
 
 Although the goal is to be a monthly, it will publish only five issues next year. Advertisers have been promised a circulation of only 100,000; Hollins said fewer than 3 percent of people over age 30 who buy music regularly would have to buy Tracks for the magazine to reach that circulation goal.
 
 Flanagan said this is wise; many new magazines promise huge circulations "and collapse under the weight of trying to achieve that."

poorlulu

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2003, 01:39:00 pm »
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  maybe worth checking out.
 
 
  Spin magazine
hehehehehhheeeehehhehehhhe.........you bored today or something?

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2003, 01:43:00 pm »
There's a review of some music mags in today's Post:
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54890-2003Nov17.html

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2003, 01:45:00 pm »
Markie's really getting out of touch with what's what, judging by this daily vidcap from his Mac
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PR_GMR

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2003, 01:45:00 pm »
Kinda of a lame name for a magazine: Tracks. Sounds a bit inert.
 
 Who has the money to fork out for music magazines anymore? I typically just browse them at the newstand.   :cool:

markie

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2003, 01:50:00 pm »
older people may be buying music regularly, but those doing so, are they really listening to Sting, REM,  Dolly Parton and all that shite.
 
 I just hoped they were spur of moment purchases by uneducated customers. Aiming a magazine at them would be futile.

PR_GMR

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2003, 01:54:00 pm »
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older people may be buying music regularly, but those doing so, are they really listening to Sting, REM, Dolly Parton and all that shite.
Apparently, they are, mankie. My mother bought a No Doubt CD recently and went to see them live. She will be 50 next year.
   :cool:

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2003, 01:54:00 pm »
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Originally posted by markie:
  older people may be buying music regularly, but those doing so, are they really listening to Sting, REM,  Dolly Parton and all that shite.
 
 I just hoped they were spur of moment purchases by uneducated customers. Aiming a magazine at them would be futile.
Not only are they really listening to it, they are also dishing out the big ticket prices for the tours.

sonickteam2

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2003, 01:55:00 pm »
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Originally posted by markie:
  older people may be buying music regularly, but those doing so, are they really listening to Sting, REM,  Dolly Parton and all that shite.
 
 I just hoped they were spur of moment purchases by uneducated customers. Aiming a magazine at them would be futile.
apparently everyone isnt as cool as you and Rhett.  
   people are buying that Sting Cd like its going out of style (or already has)

sonickteam2

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2003, 01:56:00 pm »
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older people may be buying music regularly, but those doing so, are they really listening to Sting, REM, Dolly Parton and all that shite.
Apparently, they are, mankie. My mother bought a No Doubt CD recently and went to see them live. She will be 50 next year.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2003, 02:02:00 pm »
Yeah!
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markie

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2003, 02:03:00 pm »
Comprehension......
 
 notice the "regularly"...... in my first comment on this thread.
 
 I know people buy shit CDs. Do the people that buy a sting CD really buy music regularly? I presumed they didnt. Perhaps I am wrong. That is what I was trying to get out.
 
 I mean do these people even care about music at all? Or is it something to put in the in the, in car, 6 cd stacker for the next year to avoid listening to GC on the radio?

PR_GMR

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2003, 02:07:00 pm »
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 ha.
 
 you called markie, mankie
Oops.
 
 It's easy to get them confused if you read the posts fast. They just melt together.   :p

sonickteam2

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2003, 02:09:00 pm »
Well, markie.  the one thing that i noticed from working at a record store, actually, 4 of them, 2 in MD, one in Boston and one in toronto, is that people actually DO buy these Cds, and they will come in asking for them the day they come out.  Sarah McLachlans new Cd for instance, I personally sold 17 copies in 4 hours, the day it came out.  And to people i see in the store once a week or so, and i only work there part time.
 
   So, what i have learned is that, no matter how silly or thoughtless or worthless one person thinks a CD or artist is, someone else has thier CD release date marked on thier calendar.
   Even those STUPID "Best Of" CDs that contain songs you already have on thier other CDs that people eat up like crack  :)

mankie

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Re: New Music Magazine for Old People!
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2003, 02:10:00 pm »
I think he's missed one important thing.
 
 I bet the, "more mature"  ;)  music buyers don't buy music magazines. They really don't care if Stings favorite color is seafoam green and pet hates are loud talkers in restaurants, and we certainly don't give a toss about the old pre-sale scams or cut out photo's for our bedroom walls....get my point?