can you write that post in the JA thread

I do agree with your take, I still think they form more in situations where the conditions are very bad for the workers
maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see evidence to the contrary
the United Auto Workers (UAW) union was formed largely in response to poor working conditions, low wages, and lack of job security in the early U.S. auto industry during the 1930sI think they were able to stick around and work cooperatively with management on the principal you stated, but I think that is often the second act of unions
I am pro union, but I will admit, I am fairly ignorant on the topic overall and am happy to receive an education
As a child of two public school teachers in NY, we led a very middle class lifestyle that teachers of the past never did. before the teachers union, they basically lived in poverty and there was no safety net