when did REM get so shit?

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by 2nabote:
  Are you kidding?  REM was one of the worst blends of C&W (both kinds of music, to paraphrase the owner's wife of Bob's Country Bunker) and pop.  To sell music has nothing to do with talent.  Get a clue.

not familiar with the byrds, television, soft boys, velvet underground,  wire, or big star...  only one of them having a strong country influence.

Man On The Moon was a splendid song.  
 
 If you don't agree, well then...I suppose you spend too much time lounging about on soft cushions, forever indulging yourself in the pleasures of the palm.

[Bags]

I have a clue and you are selling them way short.  They started in 1982 and brought American jangle pop to the world, and that was a beautiful thing.  The descriptor "jangle" started there, my friend.
 
 

Originally posted by 2nabote:
  Are you kidding?  REM was one of the worst blends of C&W (both kinds of music, to paraphrase the owner's wife of Bob's Country Bunker) and pop.  To sell music has nothing to do with talent.  Get a clue.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by bags:
  I have a clue and you are selling them way short.  They started in 1982 and brought American jangle pop to the world, and that was a beautiful thing.  The descriptor "jangle" started there, my friend.
 
 

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  :eek:   DUDE!!!!!  Jangle dates back to the freakin' SIXTIES with bands like the Byrds.  REM didn't even come CLOSE to inventing the genre.  The most that could be said for them is they helped revive the sound at a time when the synth and heavy guitar effects were in ascendancy.

[ggw]

REM is also credited with taking "Southern Rock" away from Lynyrd Skynyrd, .38 Special, etc... and endowing it with more "gothic" tendencies.

[Bags]

Okay, I'll take that.  But I do think they forged some new territory as well.
 
 You will *never* see me claim to be much of a music historian.  And in the end, everything has roots to something.
 
 

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
   

Originally posted by bags:
  I have a clue and you are selling them way short.  They started in 1982 and brought American jangle pop to the world, and that was a beautiful thing.  The descriptor "jangle" started there, my friend.
 
 

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:eek:    DUDE!!!!!  Jangle dates back to the freakin' SIXTIES with bands like the Byrds.  REM didn't even come CLOSE to inventing the genre.  The most that could be said for them is they helped revive the sound at a time when the synth and heavy guitar effects were in ascendancy. [/QB][/QUOTE]

[mankie]

Originally posted by bags:
  Okay, I'll take that.  But I do think they forged some new territory as well.
 
 You will *never* see me claim to be much of a music historian.  And in the end, everything has roots to something.
 
   

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
   

Originally posted by bags:
  I have a clue and you are selling them way short.  They started in 1982 and brought American jangle pop to the world, and that was a beautiful thing.  The descriptor "jangle" started there, my friend.
 
 

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:roll:

[Mobius]

All I know is REM were the original kings of that mythical genre "College Rock."

[mankie]

Did anyone see them on Today on NBC this morning? I was lucky enough to have left the house before they came on.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Bubba:
  Its been a bad day is on the radio right now.... Its like a bad cover version of one of their own songs.

I heard that song for the first time this morning on The Today Show.  You hit the nail on the head, like a bad cover of one of their own songs.
 
 I'd still have Peter Buck as my husband, though.    

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by bags:
  I'd still have Peter Buck as my husband, though.      

Even after this?   :p
 
 

R.E.M. guitarist Peter Buck appeared in a London court on Monday (4/23), where he was charged with several criminal offenses, including assaulting an aircrew and being drunk on an aircraft, according to published reports. On Saturday (4/21), Buck was arrested at London's Heathrow Airport after allegedly causing a disturbance while in transit from Seattle to London on a British Airways flight.
 
 Buck was charged with being drunk on an aircraft, disobeying an aircraft commander, two counts of assault on aircrew, threatening behavior and criminal damage, the latter of which allegedly occurred when Buck upended a service cart containing serving dishes.
 

[Bags]

Oh definitely, even after that.  I saw them at Radio City in 1988 (or 89, I can never remember, I just know it was senior year), and Peter Buck blew me away.  He has SO MUCH FUN, and jumped around and crouched down to play and obviously loved the music so much.  It wasn't for show or to put on a good set, but he just loved the music.  Plus, he's always been out there helping new bands get their music and names out.  I decided then and there I'd love to have him for a husband.
 
 And, he was much the same this morning on Today, still digging the music.  [He did have his mandolin period in there where he seemed to get quite dour, but I think the band was going through some growing pains.]
 
 Plus, then Mike Mills would be my psuedo Brother-in-Law!
 
 Love Peter Buck, love him.     :cool:
 
 Only other I love as much (or more?) is Dave Grohl, and for much the same attitude.

Did Dave ever go apeshit on a transatlantic flight and take a dump on the beverage cart, too?

[Bags]

Nope, but he's young yet.
 
 By the way, Buck did not take a dump on the service cart.  That was some unknown business man.  Buck just 'upended' the service cart.  Very different deal!

[mankie]

Originally posted by bags:
  Nope, but he's young yet.

....and married.
 
 I bet Grohl is a good laugh to go out on the piss with. He just looks like he enjoys life to the fullest.