Motley Crue roll call!!!!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Well, the Smiths refused to make videos.
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
  They were on Headbangers Ball with Rikki Rachtman rather early before MTV's Top 20 Countdown became inidated with hair bands.

but wasnt there a time when MTV wasnt ALL watered down crappy corporate music? being on MTV in the early 80s meant you were a good band! (generally, right?) [/b]

[tenfifteen]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
  They were on Headbangers Ball with Rikki Rachtman rather early before MTV's Top 20 Countdown became inidated with hair bands.

but wasnt there a time when MTV wasnt ALL watered down crappy corporate music? being on MTV in the early 80s meant you were a good band! (generally, right?) [/b]

Generally, but there were plenty of truly "great" bands whose videos I never saw on MTV. Smiths, Husker Du, Gang of Four, the Specials, the Jam... et al. I was still glued to the set daily of course, but there were a whole lot of bands who just didn't make the cut.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  well, i could be wrong, but (and i think mr chutney just kinda said this) Motley Crue wasnt MTV metal until after a few albums.  

They were on Headbangers Ball with Rikki Rachtman rather early before MTV's Top 20 Countdown became inidated with hair bands. [/b]

but Shout at the Devil was in 1983 and if i am correct, headbangers ball didnt even START until 1987 and Rikki Rachtman didnt even start til 1988.   well into Crue's career.

[HoyaSaxa03]

this is pretty funny:
 
 I can hardly believe that it's been 15 great years since this video changed my world forever! I've been following these guys ever since "Hunting High and Low" came out in 1985. In fact, I wore out my first HHL tape, and a second copy that I made from a friend.
 I remember being absolutely captivated by the video, the album, and, of course since I was 12 at the time, all of the pictures in the teen magazines! After hearing "Living A Boy's Adventure Tale" I even took a summer band class attempting to learn the oboe.

[tenfifteen]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 [QB] Well, the Smiths refused to make videos.
 

Not so. They made several.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Well, the Smiths refused to make videos.
 

so did Metallica until 1989.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Must have been later in their careers. One of the things the Morrissey prided himself on the early days was not selling out to MTV/ music video.
 
 And MTV was thought of as crap as early as 1985 by Jello Biaffra. About the same time Motley Crue was hitting full stride.
 
 
 "M.T.V.-Get Off The Air"
 
 Fun Fun Fun in the fluffy chair
 Flame up the herb
 Woof down the beer
 [click!]
 Hi
 I'm your video DJ
 I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes
 I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go
 
 My job is to help destroy
 What's left of your imagination
 By feeding you endless doses
 Of sugar-coated mindless garbage
 
 So don't create
 Be sedate
 Be a vegetable at home
 And thwack on that dial
 If we have our way even you will believe
 This is the future of rock and roll
 
 How far will you go
 How low will you stoop
 To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill
 
 You've turned rock and roll rebellion
 Into Pat Boone sedation
 Making sure nothing's left to the imagination
 
 M.T.V. Get off the
 M.T.V. Get off the
 M.T.V. Get off the air
 Get off the air
 
 See the latest rejects from the muppet show
 Wag their tits and their dicks
 As they lip-synch on screen
 There's something I don't like
 About a band who always smiles
 Another tax write-off
 For some schmuck who doesn't care
 
 M.T.V. Get off the air
 And so it was
 Our beloved corporate gods
 Claimed they created rock video
 Allowing it to sink as low in one year
 As commercial TV has in 25
 "It's the new frontier," they say
 It's wide open, anything can happen
 But you've got a lot of nerve
 To call yourself a pioneer
 When you're too god-damn conservative
 To take real chances.
 
 Tin-eared
 Graph-paper brained accountants
 Instead of music fans
 Call all the shots at giant record companies now
 
 The lowest common denominator rules
 Forget honesty
 Forget creativity
 The dumbest buy the mostest
 That's the name of the game
 
 But sales are slumping
 And no one will say why
 Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?
 
 M.T.V.-Get off the air!
 NOW
 
 
 

Originally posted by tenfifteen:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 [QB] Well, the Smiths refused to make videos.
 

Not so. They made several. [/b]

[tenfifteen]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Must have been later in their careers. One of the things the Morrissey prided himself on the early days was not selling out to MTV/ music video.

Definitely much later, and now that I think about it, they may have been nothing more than performance clips. But there is a DVD, and as I recall, it has a few videos in addition to some hacked together live clips. I believe Morrissey aptly called videos "promotional films."

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  Must have been later in their careers. One of the things the Morrissey prided himself on the early days was not selling out to MTV/ music video.
 
 And MTV was thought of as crap as early as 1985 by Jello Biaffra. About the same time Motley Crue was hitting full stride.

have you ever heard that quote
 
  "Whoever said winning isn't everything never won anything"

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 And MTV was thought of as crap as early as 1985 by Jello Biaffra. About the same time Motley Crue was hitting full stride.
 

thanks for posting that, remarkably applicable to today ...

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
 And MTV was thought of as crap as early as 1985 by Jello Biaffra. About the same time Motley Crue was hitting full stride.
 

thanks for posting that, remarkably applicable to today ... [/b]

his posts are riveting sometimes.

[ggw]

"Looks that Kill" was the first video and was on MTV in '83.
 
 "Home Sweet Home" was aired in 1985 and still holds the record for most weeks at #1 on Dial MTV.
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  well, i could be wrong, but (and i think mr chutney just kinda said this) Motley Crue wasnt MTV metal until after a few albums.  

They were on Headbangers Ball with Rikki Rachtman rather early before MTV's Top 20 Countdown became inidated with hair bands. [/b]

but Shout at the Devil was in 1983 and if i am correct, headbangers ball didnt even START until 1987 and Rikki Rachtman didnt even start til 1988.   well into Crue's career. [/b]

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  "Looks that Kill" was the first video and was on MTV in '83.
 
 "Home Sweet Home" was aired in 1985 and still holds the record for most weeks at #1 on Dial MTV.

my point was that thier "early" videos were not on headbangers ball when they came out.
 
 and i also said they werent huge until "Smokin In the Boys Room" which was the single before "Home Sweet Home"

[ggw]

Shout at the Devil went Gold in Jan 1984; platinum in September.
 
 Too Fast for Love went gold in Feb 1984.
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  "Looks that Kill" was the first video and was on MTV in '83.
 
 "Home Sweet Home" was aired in 1985 and still holds the record for most weeks at #1 on Dial MTV.

my point was that thier "early" videos were not on headbangers ball when they came out.
 
 and i also said they werent huge until "Smokin In the Boys Room" which was the single before "Home Sweet Home" [/b]

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Shout at the Devil went Gold in Jan 1984; platinum in September.
 
 Too Fast for Love went gold in Feb 1984.
 

not that you're even talking about the same thing (videos). but:
 
   Too Fast for Love  came out in 1981 (on Elektra in 82).  so thats over 2 years!
 
    Shout at the Devil was released in early 83 and ONLY went platinum because
 
   a) it said Devil on it.
 
   b) they toured with Ozzy Osbourne the entire summer of 1994.