Ash

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

That is pissing me off! That and the fact that his little headlining tour is not playing here.
 
 

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
 
 
 Off topic again you can Brenden Benson to that list of supports act better than the headliner.  He is going to do some shows with Keane.  He joins the few and the very mighty.  Sloan, Ash

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  Unless of course they tour with The Kings of Leon whose fans appear to except anything if the somewhat positive reaction to Vargenius is any  indication.
 

fans?  you mean, "people who have read / heard they were cool"

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

heh... it would appear that my views on this show were very much in the minority.  :p

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by ratioci nation:
  this is amusing, the Kaiser Chiefs dont even have a full length out here yet and backlash has started

i've played "i predict a riot" for a few people whose opinions i respect and got nothing but negative responses ... this is actually the only place i've heard good things about them ...
 
 personally, i like the song, although its a bit retread-y, and i've heard nothing else from them

[kosmo vinyl]

yeah brendan and or the waxwings both skipped DC on recent tour, must have been something i said...
 
 i would guess those backward baseball cap DUDES would agree with you on the bravery   :p

[xneverwherex]

I only have one major complaint, and that is it would have been nice to know that Ash was no longer the main act. Luckily I managed to make it up the stairs with a friend to hear Ash just as they were about to go on. Was talking to a guy selling merchandise, when he informed us, yup Ash was the next band playing.
 
 Ash was f'ing amazing last night! they played a good mix of stuff, and i was glad to hear all the older stuff. I've had the import of Meltdown, and have been wanting to hear this live, so it was quite great!    I recall seeing them about 2 years ago and they also ended with Burn Baby Burn. Is that the deal at all the shows now, ending with that song? I Love BBB, so it really doesn't matter, just funny how now it seems every time im seeing them they close with that song. Charlotte was looking great as always and Tim.. yeah 'nuff said! I was only sad they didn't play jack names the planets as i *love* that song!
 
 I don't think im as negative towards the bravery, as it seems many people are around here. they were entertaining, although i was more pissed they were headlining. their cover of 'dont change' was amusing to say the least!    
 
 -r

[Bags]

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
  heh... it would appear that my views on this show were very much in the minority.      

[Bags]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  I only have one major complaint, and that is it would have been nice to know that Ash was no longer the main act.

See, I think we did know -- they switched the order on the webpage.  I thought yesterday that meant the lineup had changed.
 
 of course, this is dependent on folks looking at the website routinely, but how else could the club "notify" ticket holders?

[vansmack]

Far be it for me to say I told you so, but the writing was on the wall months ago.  Too bad for Ash.
 
 I think I will sell my tickets for the SF show to some crazed Bravery fan and make a sweet profit.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Bags:
  Being in the back, I told my friend "I like these songs, they're good songs, but the live experience is not grabbing me -- I'm not fully engaged somehow."  We moved a little bit up, and either being closer or that the couple of next songs were better made a big improvement.  

i ALWAYS feel this way at black cat ... the way the room is designed doesn't do a good job of pulling you into the experience if you're in the back of the room

[xneverwherex]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  I only have one major complaint, and that is it would have been nice to know that Ash was no longer the main act.

See, I think we did know -- they switched the order on the webpage.  I thought yesterday that meant the lineup had changed.
 
 of course, this is dependent on folks looking at the website routinely, but how else could the club "notify" ticket holders? [/b]

yes, you are right. but after that whole big mess with VOB and ambulance on saturday night, with a lot of people claiming VOB was now the main act, its hard to know whats correct anymore. of course, me being a huge ash fan, i wanted more than anything the website to be incorrect! maybe i should have checked out the ash site or the bravery, but you never know. just seems 9:30 is a bit more organized with show times, etc than the Black Cat. Either way, it doesnt affect who I see where. If theres a band playing I want to see, I'm usually there early enough to catch em!

[Tom Servo]

I'll echo some comments here...
 
 Crimea
 I liked their energy and the title track Lottery Winners on Acid was pretty good.  You also can�??t go wrong with a song title �??If you want to see my happy face, tell me my girl just died.�?�  Other than that, nothing special.  They hit a volume level on one of the last songs that may well have kept my ears ringing all night.  
 
 Ash
 Mixed review.  Some good tunes, good presence, nice guitar work, and some great beats.  Definitely rocking.  I have a bias toward good vocals, though, and his voice just didn�??t stand out in any way �?? quality, melody, or volume.  It made the songs feel somewhat repetitive.  This was my first time to see them, however, and it is always hard to hear the distinctions when you don�??t know the songs.  Bass player looked like he wanted to kill someone for most of the show.  Maybe the guy who switched the lineup.  
 
 Bravery
 It looks like I�??m in the minority here, but I enjoyed the set.  I liked the three tunes on their website and I thought they played them well.  Honest Mistake is just a solid pop song.  Vocal was not quite as strong as on the recording, but he held his own.  On the flipside, there is no doubt that this group won�??t be breaking historic ground on originality.  I couldn�??t help thinking throughout the set that they certainly �??acted�?� like a famous pop/rock outfit.  Full coiffage, eye makeup, painted nails, the works.  Dedicating the encore to Mom and Dad in the audience was endearing, but it didn�??t exactly jibe with the disaffected pop star persona he had been working.  
 
 As far as the current wholesale thievery of 80s pop, it doesn�??t really bother me.  The synthesizer has returned as an acceptable rock instrument, and style has returned as an acceptable companion to (or substitute for) substance.  So be it.  Like Kosmo said, it�??s being reinvented for a new generation.  Even if it was better the first time, it�??s hard to blame the 13-22 year-olds for thinking that it�??s the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I liked the sound.  And if you like the Killers, Franz Ferdinand, etc, you can probably add the Bravery to your mix.  
 
 Thanks to the board for the good discussion.  Saw the Wrens and De Novo Dahl based on the buzz here, and both were excellent.  Especially DND, I can�??t believe there were only 35 people at that gig.

[Bags]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  after that whole big mess with VOB and ambulance on saturday night, with a lot of people claiming VOB was now the main act, its hard to know whats correct anymore.

I missed this whole thing -- were the acts actually changed, or just rumored to be so?
 
 Nearly no place is as good at 9:30 about getting info out.  We are blessed to have this place in our city.  And it *really* spoils you; I now often am looking for set times at places in other cities, and usually to no avail.

[kosmo vinyl]

KSMOstival attendence 101  

[indefinitely]

i really enjoyed ash last night. i'm terrible at describing shows so i'll leave it at that. i'm always going to be biased though b/c they're the band that got me really interested in music ten years ago (yikes, that long ago) and were my first favorite band.
 
 i also could've done w/ out the bravery headline  switch not only to hear just a bit more ash but also b/c i don't see why everyone's going crazy over them. they're entertaining and their music was sorta catchy but nothing too special to me.