Worst Company in America?

[MattWithABeard]

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Brandon's post goes a long way towards illustrating why libertarians are douchebags.

I just choked on my tongue from suddenly laughing, seriously.

[alex]

It's always interesting to note that the average new Walmart receives about 2-3 times the number of job applications than there are available jobs.  I don't deny that there are cases where they've stepped over the line and gotten in trouble for mistreatment, but I think that number speaks volumes on the overall positives of landing a job there.
 
 In addition, even if WalMart did supposedly "bust" towns and run "quasi-monopolies" (whatever that means), why is it assumed that inefficient businesses are entitled to remain in place?  I mean if not WalMart, wouldn't something else have displaced their market share eventually?  And do you have evidence of a WalMart actually "wiping out" the business district of an "entire" small town, where everything remained boarded up, never to return?  Or did WalMart simply displace the most inefficient companies, who where then replaced by something more in demand for the given market (example being a hardware store or a clothing store closing, and then a resturaunt or a gym opening in their place)?
 
 I don't know, I see alot of talking points from the anti-WalMart crowd that state "WalMart decimates small towns," but I rarely see it backed by any solid evidence.
 
 

I don't know... a crappy return policy (something I've not experienced) doesn't seem to be in the same league with Wal-Mart's vicious treatment of employees, it's town-busting and quasi monopolistic practices. Wal-Mart is famous for wiping out entire small town business districts --although crappy returns are more likely to directly impact the type of people who vote in online polls. You can see the limitations of this kind of exercise.
 
 Same with Microsoft...computer geeks hold their grudges, but I'm guessing Microsoft treats its staff pretty well, and the Gates Foundation holds huge promise in addressing some of the world's ills.

[alex]

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where do low income people not get water power or gas

If you do not pay your power, gas or water bill, they get turned off, no?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
   

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where do low income people not get water power or gas

If you do not pay your power, gas or water bill, they get turned off, no? [/b]

Yes, Alex, "not paying your bill and therefore being denied future services" is entirely the same thing as "not providing electricity or water to low income areas." Entirely.
 
 I think the honeymoon has rotted your thinking facilities.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
  It's always interesting to note that the average new Walmart receives about 2-3 times the number of job applications than there are available jobs.  I don't deny that there are cases where they've stepped over the line and gotten in trouble for mistreatment, but I think that number speaks volumes on the overall positives of landing a job there.

And also despite the risk of arrest or HIV, people continue to be drug dealers and prostitutes. I don't deny that there are cases where people have been burned by this lifestyle, but I think the overall trend speaks volumes on the overall positives of landing a job in said industries.
 
 Seriously, what the hell, dude? Are you just reading verbatim from the Bob-Barr-Batshit-Insane-Talking-Points '08 guide?

[alex]

Your argument would be valid if I was talking about pure, unregulated self-interest.  But I'm not.  Notice I said ECONOMIC self-interest, which trumps the commons dilemma far more often than not through economic factors such as the market, which successfully allocates and conserves those resources that would otherwise fall victim to the commons dilemma.
 
 

Originally posted by sweetcell:
 there are lots of examples where social good is trampled by individual need/greed.  for example, the commons dilemma.  i'd say your assertion that self-interest = interest of society is wrong, all too often.

[godsshoeshine]

wow

[alex]

Yes, Alex, "not paying your bill and therefore being denied future services" is entirely the same thing as "not providing electricity or water to low income areas." Entirely.
 
 I think the honeymoon has rotted your thinking facilities.

Go back and read before accusing others of not thinking.  Vansmack said "households" not "areas."

[alex]

You'er going to seriously set up a strawman comparing people who have a desire to work at Walmart to people who deal drugs and sell their bodies for sex, and then accuse me of using "batshit insane" talking points?
 
 That's rich, even for you.
 
 

And also despite the risk of arrest or HIV, people continue to be drug dealers and prostitutes. I don't deny that there are cases where people have been burned by this lifestyle, but I think the overall trend speaks volumes on the overall positives of landing a job in said industries.
 
 Seriously, what the hell, dude? Are you just reading verbatim from the Bob-Barr-Batshit-Insane-Talking-Points '08 guide?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
  Go back and read before accusing others of not thinking.  Vansmack said "households" not "areas."

It's still disingenuous. There's a difference between denying a household a service because they didn't pay for it when you gave it to them before and denying them a service because their neighbors are poor.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
  You'er going to seriously set up a strawman comparing people who have a desire to work at Walmart to people who deal drugs and sell their bodies for sex, and then accuse me of using "batshit insane" talking points?
 
 That's rich, even for you.
 

Hey, it's your logic. All sorts of people take all sorts of terrible jobs. We have close to 6% unemployment in this country. The willingness of someone to do something for money does not, in fact, make it a "good" job, nor does it speak to the overall positives of said employment.
 
 This doesn't even address the biggest elephant in the room with regards to this argument: that the IQ of the average Walmart applicant is probably around 83. I knew a mentally handicapped boy in high school who'd lick his own shoe; it's not substantial evidence that muddy rubber is tasty.

[alex]

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
   

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
  Go back and read before accusing others of not thinking.  Vansmack said "households" not "areas."

It's still disingenuine. There's a difference between denying a household a service because they didn't pay for it when you gave it to them before and denying them a service because their neighbors are poor. [/b]

That wasn't the argument presented, thus it wasn't the one to which I was responding...but if you want to take it there, we can.
 
 Do you have evidence that Comcast has deliberately excluded entire populated areas from their services, due to it being a generally low-income area?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
  Do you have evidence that Comcast has deliberately excluded entire populated areas from their services, due to it being a generally low-income area?

I don't think even Comcast denies that they're going to expand into all the high-income sections in an area before expanding to the ghetto.
 
 For the record, I don't have a problem with it; it's good business, and cable television isn't an essential service like heat or electricity, I just find your particular argument so ridiculous it discredits the underlying good argument.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
 
 eBay/PayPal?  Seriously?  How many people have launched successful businesses from eBay, using the convenience of PayPal to receive payments?  How many people have found valuable deals on eBay, and used PayPay to get to them?  How many products and services were allocated more efficiently due to having this interactive and integrated platform with which to do business?
 
 What have you people done?

first of all my big business loving republican friend.  Paypal is a terribly shady company....they deserve to be on that list.  Ebay does too.  
 
  I know someone very well who works very closely with these people and some very fucked up business practices happen here. I wont go into them because its not really my information to leak.
 
   Secondly, our economy would NOT collapse without these companies. because without these companies other , perhaps more honest well-intentioned companies, would step to the forefront and provide us the same services.
 
 
   My final four, i would pick Ticketmaster, Capital One, American Airlines and United Health Care.....with Capital One over AA in a nailbiter!
 
   Whats in your wallet!

[sonickteam2]

Brandon Brendall is the textbook reason why I wont vote Republican or Libertarian.
 
 I just cant be associated with people like that.
 
 its disgusting.