why are american's so repressed?

[markie]

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
  Physical development may be speeding up, but emotional maturity levels are definitely being delayed.

What makes you think that?

[mankie]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by mankie:
 ]....and I'm sure your wife will come!

Oh aye! and yours! [/b]

I remember after my first time my initial thoughts were...."what the *uck is all the fuss about" Then after a few more times it was "oh, yeah, now I get it"

[markie]

Originally posted by mankie:
  I remember after my first time my initial thoughts were...."what the *uck is all the fuss about" Then after a few more times it was "oh, yeah, now I get it"

Cant say it was like that for me. More like, wow, that would have been great if it had lasted longer or hadn't been so damned cold out.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Years ago, people were in general independent of their parents and living life by the time they were 18. They had to grow up quicker.
 
    Now, many more are out drinking, fucking, and living selfish self-centered lives while still living off of their parent's dime.
 
 
 

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
  Physical development may be speeding up, but emotional maturity levels are definitely being delayed.

What makes you think that? [/b]

[Celeste]

I don't think expecting a certain degree of public decorum necessarily equals being repressed.
 
 That being said,we do have a kind of twisted dichotomy when it comes to honest discourse on sexuality vs. packaged sexual themes every time you turn around.
 
 I think porn (or television of any kind) in a moving vehicle on the road is probably a bad idea, though. Why can't the rich brats just color, read a book or play a game?

[markie]

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
     Now, many more are out drinking, fucking, and living selfish self-centered lives while still living off of their parent's dime.
 
 

And I have to tell you its fucking great.
 
 In a more technological world people are attaining higher levels of education, someone has to pay for that education.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
  Now, many more are out drinking, fucking.......while still living off of their parent's dime.
 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!  
 
 But where do you come up with the "self-centered" lives bit?  How does a 22-year old lead an "other-centered" life while trying to start out, first job, first apt, barely making it...
 
 Plus, aren't we talking about 18 year olds (since 1999, specifically)...is this bitterness over parents who didn't pay for college, or did you refuse to drink & fuck because you were on your parents' dime.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

It's not bitterness. It's just truth. I don't think most people truly develop emotionally until they have someone else in life whose emotional well being they are in part responsible for, i.e. a life partner or a life partner and children.
 
    And people, myself included tend to delay those things more these days in lieu of sowing their wild oats.
 
    At my age, my parents had been married for 15 years, and had had a kid for 9 years. Surely, they were more emotionally developed at 36 than I am.
 
 
 

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
  Now, many more are out drinking, fucking.......while still living off of their parent's dime.
 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!  
 
 But where do you come up with the "self-centered" lives bit?  How does a 22-year old lead an "other-centered" life while trying to start out, first job, first apt, barely making it...
 
 Plus, aren't we talking about 18 year olds (since 1999, specifically)...is this bitterness over parents who didn't pay for college, or did you refuse to drink & fuck because you were on your parents' dime. [/b]

[Celeste]

Originally posted by Bags:
 How does a 22-year old lead an "other-centered" life while trying to start out, first job, first apt, barely making it...

trouble is, it's not just 22 year olds...it's 28 year olds, 30 year olds, 36 year olds...not sure who's "barely making it" of the ilk we're talking about here...

[markie]

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
 
 
    At my age, my parents had been married for 15 years, and had had a kid for 9 years. Surely, they were more emotionally developed at 36 than I am.
 
 
 

Perhaps you will be more emotionally prepared if and when that happens.
 
 If you have kids you are forced into maturity, there is little option. But defering that probably has a lot to do with the different opportunites you had in life than your parents did. A more educated person will probably have a family later, not least because its seen as easier to have a family after, not during the education stage.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Celestial Balls:
   

Originally posted by Bags:
 How does a 22-year old lead an "other-centered" life while trying to start out, first job, first apt, barely making it...

trouble is, it's not just 22 year olds...it's 28 year olds, 30 year olds, 36 year olds...not sure who's "barely making it" of the ilk we're talking about here... [/b]

This discussion began about teenagers and their physical versus emotional development, hence I thought that's what balls was talking about... There was no visible seque to the general responsibility or not of adults, so my responses were about teenagers (and young adults) in line with the discussion.  Again, balls and I were talking past each other...

[Celeste]

Originally posted by Venerable Balls:
   At my age, my parents had been married for 15 years, and had had a kid for 9 years. Surely, they were more emotionally developed at 36 than I am.

I don't know that mine were, totally. In some ways yes, in some ways no way (especially Dad)

[ggw]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
 If you have kids you are forced into maturity, there is little option. But defering that probably has a lot to do with the different opportunites you had in life than your parents did.

Right.  The Baby Boomers are willing to coddle their 20-somethings and pay for their whims, while their own parents likely said, "get the fuck out and earn your own keep."

[mankie]

Originally posted by Celestial Balls:
 
 I think porn (or television of any kind) in a moving vehicle on the road is probably a bad idea, though. Why can't the rich brats just color, read a book or play a game?

I bet your kids will be making their own t-shirt designs.

[mankie]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
 

In a more technological world people are attaining higher levels of education, someone has to pay for that education. [/b]

If you want a 'higher education' then pay for the bastard yourself.