Obamacare...

[Frank Gallagher]

.....this is your future America if Obama achieves his long term goal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12964360

Hey! Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just say'n...

[sweetcell]

right, because the current path this country is on - richest in the world, most expensive health care in the world and coverage rates that are down-right embarrassing - is a much better path.  who cares if the working poor suffer from easily preventable diseases - let them learn to pay those lawsuit-driven sky-high prices.  if you can't afford $100+ to walk in the door of a clinic, or $20,000+ to have your burst appendix removed (a relatively simple operation, 24 hour stay), then you don't deserve health care.

let's go back to the middle ages.  i'm just sayin'.

(p.s. obama's health care plan doesn't call for full socialized medicine like they have the in UK.  hospitals remain private, insurance remains private.  are you one of those who seriously believes obama is a socialist?)

[azaghal1981]

Does not go far enough.

[HoyaSaxa03]

well, this should be a stupid thread.

[azaghal1981]

The guy that equated homosexuality to bestiality not too long ago started it.


I thought those comments were satirical at the time but now, I am not sure.

[runwhiteyrun06]

First, I really don't think threads like these should even be on the 930 club board in the first place.

Second, I would wager this board is predominantly liberal so we all know how the ensuing argument this thread would perhaps create would go down anyway.

Third, I like the fact that Frank Gallagher started this thread. The original post sounds like something Frank Gallagher from Shameless would say.


/remember, this is a music forum.

[Justin Tonation]

/remember, this is a music forum.

Sez who?

[RatBastard]

It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

I'm just troll'n

[James Ford]

No, it's your fellow insurance premium payers paying higher rates to support for your crippled ass.

It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.

[wml7]

No, it's your fellow insurance premium payers paying higher rates to support for your crippled ass.

It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.

Whoa 

[godsshoeshine]

i think frank actually has a good point

"obamacare" does run the risk of being ineffective due to a convervative government coming in and slashing funding

because that's what the article is about...

[sweetcell]

It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.

completely agreed - but health care costs are out of the control of any single person.  it is the government's job to provide social services, especially ones where the private sector is failing. 

you can think within the system, "this is how things work - a family of four should budget thousands per year for health care.  deal with it".  or you can take a step back and ask yourself, "why should anyone have to pay that much for something so necessary, within a system that is so broken?"

my opinions are colored by the fact that i believe that health care is a basic right, not a privilege.  you should contribute towards its cost but those costs should not be allowed to run out of control to the point where health care is unattainable.   

"obamacare" does run the risk of being ineffective due to a convervative government coming in and slashing funding

good point.  makes for great politicking - kill the opposition's plan through lack of funding, then point out what a failure their plan was.  brilliant!

[ggw]

I misread the thread title.  I thought it said "Obamacore," which I figured was just some new East African sub-genre of technically polished but ultimately feckless pop pablum.

[James Ford]

I'm all for universal healthcare as long as we exclude smokers, alcohol and drug abusers, fatties who are more than 30 pounds overweight, and child abusers from getting it.