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shemptiness

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« Reply #780 on: May 28, 2013, 10:01:21 am »
Win by 4.  Problem solved.

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« Reply #781 on: May 28, 2013, 10:33:20 am »
Win by 4.  Problem solved.

Don't bring in Jim Johnson was the solution.  4 run lead with JJ in would have been gone soon enough. 

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« Reply #782 on: May 28, 2013, 10:38:43 am »
Win by 4.  Problem solved.

Don't bring in Jim Johnson was the solution.  4 run lead with JJ in would have been gone soon enough. 

He'll be put in tonight if the situation calls for it.  He's still the closer.

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« Reply #783 on: May 28, 2013, 11:20:46 am »
Win by 4.  Problem solved.

Don't bring in Jim Johnson was the solution.  4 run lead with JJ in would have been gone soon enough. 

He'll be put in tonight if the situation calls for it.  He's still the closer.

I hope he won't. Buck deserves to lose his job if JJ blows another game.  He had Patton warmed the other night a left-hander was up and JJ had already proven he couldn't get people out. No reason JJ was in the game.  Can we get Kevin Gregg back?

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« Reply #784 on: May 28, 2013, 03:49:15 pm »
Can we get Kevin Gregg back?

I'm sure he'll forget all about being released in mid-September in the heart of a pennant chase, missing out on the playoffs and be a wonderful addition to the club house after having to sign a minor league deal this offseason because his option wasn't exercised by the O's.

Kevin Gregg is a pitcher throwing with a chip on his shoulder and it's precisely because he's not on the O's that he's so effective right now.
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shemptiness

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Re: ORIOLES
« Reply #785 on: May 28, 2013, 05:40:25 pm »

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« Reply #786 on: May 28, 2013, 06:57:03 pm »
It's time for a new approach to the role of closer

Billy Beane has been preaching this for as long as I can remember and has benefited from teams willing to overpay for "closers" for years.

Keith Foulke, Billy Koch, Jason Isringhausen, Huston Street, Andrew Bailey, Grant Balfour....

"I'll tell you why," Oakland general manager Billy Beane says. "It's the same reason more football coaches don't go for it on fourth-and-1. Because when it doesn't work, 30 of you guys come storming in wondering why the manager didn't go to the closer. It's turned into a situation where a lot of emotion is tied to that decision, just as a lot of emotion is tied to the fourth-down decision. Even if you know the odds, it's more comfortable being wrong when you go to the closer or the punter.

"The position has become very media-driven. It became a national story when Boston announced it would go with a bullpen by committee."

"Whitey Herzog had a lot of success with a closer by committee," Beane says. "Although now that I think back on it, I'm not sure they called it 'closer by committee' back then. I think then it was just called 'using your bullpen wisely.' Then closers became 'specialists.'"
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HoyaSaxa03

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« Reply #787 on: May 28, 2013, 11:34:28 pm »
Suck it, O's
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shemptiness

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« Reply #788 on: May 29, 2013, 08:34:50 am »
Suck it, O's

Woo-hoo!  One game winning streak!

Go back to your own sandbox.
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« Reply #789 on: May 29, 2013, 09:58:02 am »
If the starter pitches 5 2/3 innings just bring in one guy to go 3 1/3 and then you don't need to bring in 5 relievers one of whom is more than likely to be off his game. 

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« Reply #790 on: May 29, 2013, 11:55:16 am »
If the starter pitches 5 2/3 innings just bring in one guy to go 3 1/3 and then you don't need to bring in 5 relievers one of whom is more than likely to be off his game. 

ask the rockies how that worked.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/sports/baseball/rockies-reinvent-their-pitching-rotation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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« Reply #791 on: May 29, 2013, 02:37:56 pm »
If the starter pitches 5 2/3 innings just bring in one guy to go 3 1/3 and then you don't need to bring in 5 relievers one of whom is more than likely to be off his game. 

ask the rockies how that worked.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/sports/baseball/rockies-reinvent-their-pitching-rotation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

This has nothing to do what I am talking about.  I said use one reliever per game.  This is saying limiting starters to 75 pitches.   

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« Reply #792 on: May 29, 2013, 02:53:07 pm »
[  I said use one reliever per game. 

Brilliant.  I think you should email Buck with this nugget of wisdom.

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« Reply #793 on: May 29, 2013, 03:53:35 pm »
[  I said use one reliever per game. 

Brilliant.  I think you should email Buck with this nugget of wisdom.

Buck wouldn't do that.  He misuses the pitchers.  He pull pitchers out soon as they hit 100 pitches no matter if they are pitching well or not.  And then goes through the entire bullpen wearing them out.

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« Reply #794 on: May 29, 2013, 04:39:39 pm »
[  I said use one reliever per game. 

Brilliant.  I think you should email Buck with this nugget of wisdom.

Buck wouldn't do that.  He misuses the pitchers.  He pull pitchers out soon as they hit 100 pitches no matter if they are pitching well or not.  And then goes through the entire bullpen wearing them out.
i love that you think you can manage the rotation better than the manager