RE: CT School Massacre

[hutch]

apologies to atomicfront for having erroneously included his name on an earlier post. got him confused with ratbastard.

[RatBastard]

A handgun has NEVER killed anyone or anything.

[RatBastard]

There is no perfect answer.  What do you do abut all the guns already in circulation? In this case, it looks like having some sort of mental health check before buying a weapon (obviously a smart thing) wouldn't have mattered because from what I have read, the guns belonged to his mother.

20 year jail term for having a gun after a specific date.  If people keep them they are risking spending most of their life in jail.  Right now even if you carry illegal you get a slap on the wrist.

Drugs are illegal yet I would be willing to wager a large sum of money that many of those discussing this very topic use drugs to some degree or another.  Making something illegal DOES NOT prevent anyone from doing anything.  It merely imposes a penalty for doing so.




And the criminals will still have guns.  Only the honest citizens will turn in their guns.  Then we will have more of these killings because the criminals know there is no risk of them being stopped.  The countries with the strictest gun laws have the highest rates of gun violence, but as is usual, libtards never pay attention to facts.

you don't pay attention to facts. you are responsible for the killings.  mentally ill people won't be able to get guns if they are illegal.  where do you think some loser who can't have a conversation with another human being is going to acquire illegal fire arms? 

[Yada]

http://liveforlivemusic.com/news/alabama-shakes-front-woman-robbed-at-gunpoint/

[RatBastard]

People don't need cars.  Walk if you want to go somewhere.

People don't need medicine.  If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.

People don't need don't need electricity.  Do whatever you want to do during daylight.

people don't need guns.  they just don't.

If you don't want a gun don't buy one.  I personally do not have any fire arms, but I have no desire what-so-ever to prevent other law abiding citizens from owning them.

[RatBastard]

people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.

they are responsible.  that is what they should post on their facebook pages.

To say there is nothing we can do.. let us just weep and get ready to weep again because we will not change... that is crazy.

Anyways I'm done... I feel sorry for human beings who accept more children be mowed down in the future and stand in the way of even attempting to try to do something.

Moreover, I feel they are accessories to whatever happens in the future.  EDITED

There really isn't anything we can do to prevent a determined person from committing any given crime.  What I find sad and totally offensive is a person who is supposed top be our president invading a memorial service and disrespecting the families by turning their sorrow into a political speech and making empty promises that could never be kept not matter how his intentions were.  We do need to work on the issue but we need to address the real problem and not have a knee jerk reaction that libtards everywhere love to do.  Taking guns away form law abiding citizens will never stop criminals from obtaining guns nor will it stop them from using them to do their deeds.  Just as we don't ban cars because some people drive drunk and kill others, we shouldn't band guns..  It isn't the gun that is the problem, it is the irresponsible gun owner (just like the mother in this case).  I am not sure how much more clearly I can make the point.  If you choose to ignore logic, reason, and fact and you want to fool yourself into thinking that making something illegal will solve the problem, you are living in a fantasy world.  The bottom line is that making guns (or anything) illegal will not stop people from obtaining them.

[hutch]

People don't need cars.  Walk if you want to go somewhere.

People don't need medicine.  If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.

People don't need don't need electricity.  Do whatever you want to do during daylight.

people don't need guns.  they just don't.

If you don't want a gun don't buy one.  I personally do not have any fire arms, but I have no desire what-so-ever to prevent other law abiding citizens from owning them.

So Lanza was law abiding so its ok that he got his hands on guns?

The fact that a person is law abiding when they buy or obtain a gun in no way means they will be law abiding in how they  use it. That is the problem.

If everyone who got a gun was law abiding we wouldn't have thousands of people being murdered including little children, now would me?

[hutch]

people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.

they are responsible.  that is what they should post on their facebook pages.

To say there is nothing we can do.. let us just weep and get ready to weep again because we will not change... that is crazy.

Anyways I'm done... I feel sorry for human beings who accept more children be mowed down in the future and stand in the way of even attempting to try to do something.

Moreover, I feel they are accessories to whatever happens in the future.  EDITED

There really isn't anything we can do to prevent a determined person from committing any given crime.  What I find sad and totally offensive is a person who is supposed top be our president invading a memorial service and disrespecting the families by turning their sorrow into a political speech and making empty promises that could never be kept not matter how his intentions were.  We do need to work on the issue but we need to address the real problem and not have a knee jerk reaction that libtards everywhere love to do.  Taking guns away form law abiding citizens will never stop criminals from obtaining guns nor will it stop them from using them to do their deeds.  Just as we don't ban cars because some people drive drunk and kill others, we shouldn't band guns..  It isn't the gun that is the problem, it is the irresponsible gun owner (just like the mother in this case).  I am not sure how much more clearly I can make the point.  If you choose to ignore logic, reason, and fact and you want to fool yourself into thinking that making something illegal will solve the problem, you are living in a fantasy world.  The bottom line is that making guns (or anything) illegal will not stop people from obtaining them.

Oh I'm sorry.. I forgot GUNS dont' kill ..they were invented to kill u moron. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. People do not buy guns to fondle themselves with or make popcorn last I checked

Yes, make them illegal and get them off the streets.. that is the answer.. less guns less violence

but lets say we don't want to fully make them illegal... lets say we say everyone can have ONE little gun if they want... no semi-automatics, no huge ammo, etc etc

THAT would be a start

[RatBastard]

People don't need cars.  Walk if you want to go somewhere.

People don't need medicine.  If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.

People don't need don't need electricity.  Do whatever you want to do during daylight.

people don't need guns.  they just don't.

If you don't want a gun don't buy one.  I personally do not have any fire arms, but I have no desire what-so-ever to prevent other law abiding citizens from owning them.

So Lanza was law abiding so its ok that he got his hands on guns?

The fact that a person is law abiding when they buy or obtain a gun in no way means they will be law abiding in how they  use it. That is the problem.

If everyone who got a gun was law abiding we wouldn't have thousands of people being murdered including little children, now would me?

1) I cannot speak for CT but in VA he could not legally own a gun with a history of mental illness.
2) You are making my point that the mother was the one who was at fault here.  She was criminally negligent  in allowing her son to gain access to the weapon.
3) If everyone who owned a car was a law abiding citizen we would not have any accidents, drunk driving deaths, or any other motor vehicle deaths, now would we?

[hutch]

People don't need cars.  Walk if you want to go somewhere.

People don't need medicine.  If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.

People don't need don't need electricity.  Do whatever you want to do during daylight.

people don't need guns.  they just don't.

If you don't want a gun don't buy one.  I personally do not have any fire arms, but I have no desire what-so-ever to prevent other law abiding citizens from owning them.

So Lanza was law abiding so its ok that he got his hands on guns?

The fact that a person is law abiding when they buy or obtain a gun in no way means they will be law abiding in how they  use it. That is the problem.

If everyone who got a gun was law abiding we wouldn't have thousands of people being murdered including little children, now would me?

1) I cannot speak for CT but in VA he could not legally own a gun with a history of mental illness.
2) You are making my point that the mother was the one who was at fault here.  She was criminally negligent  in allowing her son to gain access to the weapon.
3) If everyone who owned a car was a law abiding citizen we would not have any accidents, drunk driving deaths, or any other motor vehicle deaths, now would we?

the car analogy is retarded dude... CARS are designed and meant to transport people.. that some use them incorrectly does not mean we should ban them.. GUNS are meant to kill.. when people use them correctly they KILL.. you dig? THEY ARE A WEAPON you get it??? Cars are not a weapon! They can be, badly, used as a weapon but their purpose is not to act like a weapon.. should we ban frickin' paper clips because somebody might injure somebody with one? of course not. Your analogy stinks dude. get a new one.

the point is that the woman should not have had all those weapons either! nobody should have that many weapons sitting around because sometimes some people will unfortunately use them..  less weapons less violence.. can't you understand that? what part of LESS WEAPONS LESS VIOLENCE do you not get man??

[DeathFromAbove1979]

A handgun has NEVER killed anyone or anything.

That's the one thing I wish they would re-word on these things.

[RatBastard]

people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.

they are responsible.  that is what they should post on their facebook pages.

To say there is nothing we can do.. let us just weep and get ready to weep again because we will not change... that is crazy.

Anyways I'm done... I feel sorry for human beings who accept more children be mowed down in the future and stand in the way of even attempting to try to do something.

Moreover, I feel they are accessories to whatever happens in the future.  EDITED

There really isn't anything we can do to prevent a determined person from committing any given crime.  What I find sad and totally offensive is a person who is supposed top be our president invading a memorial service and disrespecting the families by turning their sorrow into a political speech and making empty promises that could never be kept not matter how his intentions were.  We do need to work on the issue but we need to address the real problem and not have a knee jerk reaction that libtards everywhere love to do.  Taking guns away form law abiding citizens will never stop criminals from obtaining guns nor will it stop them from using them to do their deeds.  Just as we don't ban cars because some people drive drunk and kill others, we shouldn't band guns..  It isn't the gun that is the problem, it is the irresponsible gun owner (just like the mother in this case).  I am not sure how much more clearly I can make the point.  If you choose to ignore logic, reason, and fact and you want to fool yourself into thinking that making something illegal will solve the problem, you are living in a fantasy world.  The bottom line is that making guns (or anything) illegal will not stop people from obtaining them.

Oh I'm sorry.. I forgot GUNS dont' kill ..they were invented to kill u moron. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. People do not buy guns to fondle themselves with or make popcorn last I checked

Yes, make them illegal and get them off the streets.. that is the answer.. less guns less violence

but lets say we don't want to fully make them illegal... lets say we say everyone can have ONE little gun if they want... no semi-automatics, no huge ammo, etc etc

THAT would be a start

Again (please read slowly this time so you will understand), making something illegal will NOT take it off the streets.  If that were the case there would be no marajuana to be found anywhere.

Guns DON'T kill people.  PEOPLE DO.  That guns did not walk itself out of the woman's house, put itself in a stolen car, drive itself to a school, open the door, walk into he school, and start firing itself.  Libtards ALWAYS want to blame someone or something else for their actions.

[hutch]

people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.

they are responsible.  that is what they should post on their facebook pages.

To say there is nothing we can do.. let us just weep and get ready to weep again because we will not change... that is crazy.

Anyways I'm done... I feel sorry for human beings who accept more children be mowed down in the future and stand in the way of even attempting to try to do something.

Moreover, I feel they are accessories to whatever happens in the future.  EDITED

There really isn't anything we can do to prevent a determined person from committing any given crime.  What I find sad and totally offensive is a person who is supposed top be our president invading a memorial service and disrespecting the families by turning their sorrow into a political speech and making empty promises that could never be kept not matter how his intentions were.  We do need to work on the issue but we need to address the real problem and not have a knee jerk reaction that libtards everywhere love to do.  Taking guns away form law abiding citizens will never stop criminals from obtaining guns nor will it stop them from using them to do their deeds.  Just as we don't ban cars because some people drive drunk and kill others, we shouldn't band guns..  It isn't the gun that is the problem, it is the irresponsible gun owner (just like the mother in this case).  I am not sure how much more clearly I can make the point.  If you choose to ignore logic, reason, and fact and you want to fool yourself into thinking that making something illegal will solve the problem, you are living in a fantasy world.  The bottom line is that making guns (or anything) illegal will not stop people from obtaining them.

Oh I'm sorry.. I forgot GUNS dont' kill ..they were invented to kill u moron. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. People do not buy guns to fondle themselves with or make popcorn last I checked

Yes, make them illegal and get them off the streets.. that is the answer.. less guns less violence

but lets say we don't want to fully make them illegal... lets say we say everyone can have ONE little gun if they want... no semi-automatics, no huge ammo, etc etc

THAT would be a start

Again (please read slowly this time so you will understand), making something illegal will NOT take it off the streets.  If that were the case there would be no marajuana to be found anywhere.

Guns DON'T kill people.  PEOPLE DO.  That guns did not walk itself out of the woman's house, put itself in a stolen car, drive itself to a school, open the door, walk into he school, and start firing itself.  Libtards ALWAYS want to blame someone or something else for their actions.

Of course we can take guns off the streets.. why not? its been done in plenty of countries..  and even if we can't take them all off the streets taking a lot of them would be a start.. or how about preventing new ones from entering the streets. remember repeat after me: LESS GUNS LESS VIOLENCE.

Bottom line you want to enable future violence.

This isn't about liberals or conservatives.. you are the one politicizing the issue.. certainly not me or the President.

[RustyOrgan]

Does RatBastard EVER post anything worth reading?

[RatBastard]

Criminals break laws.