Author Topic: Who will be the next pope?  (Read 12729 times)

James Ford

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2013, 02:24:31 pm »
Pope Francis a misogynist?
Here is the latest Urban Legend making its way through the internet like wildfire and being attributed to Pope Francis in 2007 when Cristina Kirchner was running for President of Argentina. The quote is:

?Buenos Aires, 4 de junio (Télam) - El arzobispo de Buenos Aires, cardenal Jorge Bergoglio, afirmó que ?las mujeres son naturalmente ineptas para ejercer cargos políticos?, refiriéndose a la candidatura presidencial de la Senadora Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. ?El orden natural y los hechos nos enseñan que el hombre es el ser político por excelencia; las Escrituras nos demuestran que la mujer siempre es el apoyo del hombre pensador y hacedor, pero nada más que eso?.

The quote above begins with: ?Women are naturally inept to exercise political office..the order of nature and human activity teach us that a man is superior in the realm of politics??

?Télam? is the ?AP? or major press organization of Argentina. When people research all of the Télam articles of June 4, 2007, they come up empty for this quote. The reason is because the quote was invented out of thin air and posted in a ?Yahoo Answers? by an Argentinian who went by the name ?Bumper Crop? and who at the time did not cite a link because the entire phrase was posted to smear Cardinal Bergoglio and make him look like he was attacking Cristina Kirchner.

In addition, the phrase completely contradicts Bergoglio known friendship and admiration for various Argentine women who have held political office and who were congratulated by him upon election.

A man who is usually very critical of the Catholic Church, but honest about Urban Legends, has published a very good exposé of this fraud

http://www.forosperu.net/showthread.php?t=441037


James Ford

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2013, 02:32:10 pm »
And I'd argue that that quote is stupid and sexist and wrong, but falls short of misogynistic.

vansmack

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2013, 03:12:10 pm »
Of all the things wrong with the Catholic Church, we're going to share a made up a story to attack their misogyny?

There's plenty of true stories out there that provide more than enough fodder.
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sweetcell

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2013, 03:16:44 pm »
There's plenty of true stories out there that provide more than enough fodder.

yes, but they're not on facebook so...
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hutch

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2013, 04:59:17 pm »
The Kirchners are pure garbage.. the fact this man has had disagreements with them only speaks well of him..

TELAM is not the Argentine AP because it is government owned and therefore not credible.

What I find interesting is there has been talk bout Bernard Law being in the same church yesterday and today an article- unsubstantiated to this point- says the Pope made a statement about not wanting him anywhere near...I hope it is true. Any Archbishop who covered up pedophile crimes and moved priests around needs to be retired yesterday and made to face criminal prosecution if possible.

But marginalizing these creeps and making it clear they are no longer welcome  would be a good, if very late and inadequate, start in dealing with the pedofilia crisis.


http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Afirman-Francisco-cuestiono-presencia-pedofilos_0_883111882.html


hutch

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Re: Who will be the next pope?
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2013, 05:33:45 pm »
There is always a tendency to want to believe that a Pope has always behaved in a saintly manner. But they are humans...

There's no need to make up stuff...we know his views on contraception are horrific...as are his views on homosexuals and any number of things... that is because those are the views of the church....

But one can always hope he'll clean up the Vatican a bit....