SPOILER WARNING: Prestige Television Discussion

[James Ford]

My six year old watches episodes of Curious George, Charlie Brown, and Woody Woodpecker over and over again (I know, bad parent for letting her watch tv!).

Then again, she's six.

You re-watch entire television seasons of television series? Dude, you need to get some hobbies!

I predict these chicks won't even have careers ten years from now! That's Hollywood!

I don't even have cable.  If I want to watch any of these shows I have to wait until they get released on DVD and buy it the first week when it's the best price.  Then I may watch some of the episodes once.  I never watch them again.  I don't understand that.  Why would you watch a show again?  Is there stuff you don't catch the first time?  Especially sitcoms.  Why would you want to watch "Big Bang" or "The Simpsons" or "Seinfeld" more than once? Some people have seen the same episodes dozens of times.  Don't you remember the lame jokes?  Do they get funnier the more you hear them?

And I know I'm in the minority here but you know how some people can't read?  I can't watch modern "renaissance" TV and think it's not tired, cliched and boring.  Believe me, I've tried them all.  The Sopranos.  Game of Thrones.   Breaking Bad.   The Wire.  They just are dull to me.  I don't see a difference between them and any other show.  It's all the same shit.

I mean, I love books and music.  Love them so much I can't describe it. The 'halfway' arts.  The stuff where the writer/musician provides part of it and the listener/reader provides the rest.   But honestly, modern TV and movies I don't even like.  I tolerate.  It's just the same stuff over and over.  Even something I like, like "True Detective" (I've seen the first episode), I like but I've seen it before.  It's not deep.  None of it is.

And Yay for a naked woman on camera who looks like what women really look like.  We aren't all size 2 anorexic no boob stick figures.

You aren't?  Damn it!  I'm going to have to get a new mental picture of what Katie looks like.

Brian

[James Ford]

I put in the max because I was stupid and reached age 30 without a dime to my name.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

fucking boring..next thread i open you'll be telling us about your nifty retirement plan.

[DeathFromAbove1979]

The Archer episode last night was not very good.  Neither was How I met your mother. 

Am I the only one who likes the Mindy Project? 

Archer was boring last night. It was worth it for Archer's fantasy [previewing this season]. I'm into the ideas of the whole crew being drug runners lol. I wonder if this could ever lead back to them getting Isis back though. The office dynamic is hysterical.

As for The Mindy Project, my friend told me she mentioned her Tinder page on the show and, hilariously, we both came across it just a couple of weeks ago. So, someone has made a fake Mindy Tinder page OR she was in DC a couple weekends ago. Pretty funny either way.

[chaz]

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

Yah...my hope is to pay 100%...and if I'm able to I will.  But yes, the reality is that it really is not that likely.  Unless I have a rich relative I don't know about who kicks it.

[James Ford]

Also, maybe it's "odd" to talk about such things with strangers on the internet, but how is it "fucking boring?"

It's called having a real adult conversation.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

fucking boring..next thread i open you'll be telling us about your nifty retirement plan.

[hutch]

whatever happened to scholarships? working your way through college? grants?

[hutch]

Also, maybe it's "odd" to talk about such things with strangers on the internet, but how is it "fucking boring?"

It's called having a real adult conversation.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

fucking boring..next thread i open you'll be telling us about your nifty retirement plan.

I find it completely boring...I have zero interest in it... maybe you should start a thread on James Ford's life decisions or something... keep it contained instead of contaminating all the other threads.....

[James Ford]

What percentage of kids get scholarships and how much do they pay? I was sixth in my class of 200, got high SAT scores, and was lower middle class. I didn't get any scholarship or grant money.

I'm all for my kid having a part time job (full time in summer) but as people have mentioned, how much of a dent is some low-wage job going to put into a 20-50K a year price tag? It seems like it would more likely slow them down and prevent them from graduating in four years.

whatever happened to scholarships? working your way through college? grants?

[James Ford]

Yet you're one of the biggest respondents to such thread.

I find threads talking about Mick and Keith and live music seven nights a week and music trivia boring. Bunch of 40 year old men who still somehow feel a need to act like teenagers. Perhaps that's why there's no women on this board. Women have better things to talk about.

Also, maybe it's "odd" to talk about such things with strangers on the internet, but how is it "fucking boring?"

It's called having a real adult conversation.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

fucking boring..next thread i open you'll be telling us about your nifty retirement plan.

I find it completely boring...I have zero interest in it... maybe you should start a thread on James Ford's life decisions or something... keep it contained instead of contaminating all the other threads.....

[hutch]

What percentage of kids get scholarships and how much do they pay? I was sixth in my class of 200, got high SAT scores, and was lower middle class. I didn't get any scholarship or grant money.

I'm all for my kid having a part time job (full time in summer) but as people have mentioned, how much of a dent is some low-wage job going to put into a 20-50K a year price tag? It seems like it would more likely slow them down and prevent them from graduating in four years.

whatever happened to scholarships? working your way through college? grants?

well both my sister and i got full scholarships..in my case including everything plus a stipend...but we had to and we had a lot going for us that most people don't... but i know schools that have a ton of scholarship money.... University of Richmond actually comes to mind...

personally i think i would tell my kid to learn a foreign language and find a way in to study in europe or something...

there's no way a college education is worth what its costing...its a huge racket... they up the costs then the govt ups the amount you can take out in loans then they   up the costs again....way outstripping inflation...its a RACKET...wake up you are being CONNED.


but the bottom line is if you're saving that money its great because you don't have to use it for college if you don't need to..

anyways, like i said this is just boring so stop it.

[hutch]

Yet you're one of the biggest respondents to such thread.

I find threads talking about Mick and Keith and live music seven nights a week and music trivia boring. Bunch of 40 year old men who still somehow feel a need to act like teenagers. Perhaps that's why there's no women on this board. Women have better things to talk about.

its a 930 Club board dude.. if you dont' care about music find another forum..I recommend the AARP boards, jackass.

[atomic]

Yet you're one of the biggest respondents to such thread.

I find threads talking about Mick and Keith and live music seven nights a week and music trivia boring. Bunch of 40 year old men who still somehow feel a need to act like teenagers. Perhaps that's why there's no women on this board. Women have better things to talk about.

Also, maybe it's "odd" to talk about such things with strangers on the internet, but how is it "fucking boring?"

It's called having a real adult conversation.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

fucking boring..next thread i open you'll be telling us about your nifty retirement plan.

I find it completely boring...I have zero interest in it... maybe you should start a thread on James Ford's life decisions or something... keep it contained instead of contaminating all the other threads.....

You talking about how this beer is better than that beer because it says so on Beer Advocate I am sure just interests women to death. 

[atomic]

What percentage of kids get scholarships and how much do they pay? I was sixth in my class of 200, got high SAT scores, and was lower middle class. I didn't get any scholarship or grant money.

I'm all for my kid having a part time job (full time in summer) but as people have mentioned, how much of a dent is some low-wage job going to put into a 20-50K a year price tag? It seems like it would more likely slow them down and prevent them from graduating in four years.

whatever happened to scholarships? working your way through college? grants?

I got a 500 dollar per semester state senatorial scholarship when I graduated.  I don't know how they awarded those.  I guess that was half the tuition when I started.

[atomic]

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

Why did you decide to have only one kid?  Was it because of your age?

[James Ford]

That's a good question. A question I wish more of my actual offline friends and family would ask (not so that I could give them some kind of superior than thou answer, but because it's a genuine question), a question that I'd be happy to answer if we ever met in person. But I don't want to bore Hutch with the answer. Hutch is probably right, let's stick with Mick and Keith and Lena Dunham's boobs.

Suffice it to say it was a right enough decision that we're happy with our decision but not a right enough decision such that we never question it.

So I don't get that beer until my daughter is 22?

We have two professionally working parents, chose to have only one kid, I drive a 20 year old car, we chose to buy a house in an un-hip not overly expensive suburb well outside of DC, we don't have nice "stuff" in our house, we started our 529 savings before our daughter was one, we put more than we need to into the account. Trust me, we still be able to afford to pay for everything.

A. Between UVA, William and Mary and Va Tech, we have three of the top 75 schools right here in VA. She will go to a state school...unless somehow a top notch private school is cheaper.

B. She will be strongly encouraged to major in something useful and practical.

one of those schools has plenty of useful and practical majors

student loans will be a practical option, especially when you realize your child wants to live with their best friends off-campus and rent is $500 a month (financial curveball!), or they want to take five years instead of four (common, these days), or they want to do any of the other million dumb things college students do that cost a shit-ton of money.  

while i find it sincere that you and chaz want to pay 100%, my parents said the same thing too, and my friends parents, and all my peers in school. my experience is it rarely happens. it's nice that your parents did that for you, but college is stupid expensive now, even in-state. i started school 8 years ago, and in that eight years, tuition increased 9k from where i started. 9k! when you're staring down 100k worth of expenses, you'll come to your senses and say "okay, i guess 20k in student loans for my child is reasonable". and you can tell me i'm full of shit, because honestly who am i to judge someone else's goals or aspirations, but consider finding some practical middle ground between where you are now and atomic's "let the child pay it all" as that day approaches and you begin to realize the actual costs and what your financial options are. and if you do manage to pay 100%, good on you and i'll buy you a beer next time i see you.

Why did you decide to have only one kid?  Was it because of your age?