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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #195 on: March 12, 2020, 02:41:32 pm »
Rep Katie Porter Rocks
https://twitter.com/josh_nelson/status/1238155472491950081

just got CDC Director Redfield to commit to using his authority under existing law to make #Covid_19 testing FREE for every single American.
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #196 on: March 12, 2020, 02:55:24 pm »
Rep Katie Porter Rocks
https://twitter.com/josh_nelson/status/1238155472491950081

just got CDC Director Redfield to commit to using his authority under existing law to make #Covid_19 testing FREE for every single American.

uhh... how can you offer something you don't have?
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #197 on: March 12, 2020, 02:56:13 pm »
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #198 on: March 12, 2020, 03:00:55 pm »
the doc states that coronavirus is so virulent, the air one exhales contains the virus when one is at their peak viral load - which is unfortunately before they show any symptoms).  so before you get a fever, you're a walking atomizer leaving a virus-cloud everywhere you go.  this is going to get worse before it gets better.

Coronavirus: many infections spread by people yet to show symptoms – scientists
Findings mean that isolating people once they start to feel ill is less effective than hoped
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #199 on: March 12, 2020, 03:30:56 pm »
Yes based on what is going on that has to be the case...I really think in the US we should shut it down for a month...self quarantine everyone almost immediately

Will the warming weather help?

Either way we need a massive quarantine


It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly


We should be trying to get ahead of it...setting up automated food delivery systems, having the government pay for food, suspending stock markets and all flights etc

Note: just spitballing

And I just got back from hospital taking kid to therapy

All that sort of stuff should be canceled

I cancelled next three weeks

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #200 on: March 12, 2020, 03:31:50 pm »
And in a recently published study, the virus sticks on surfaces longer than SARS:

Abstract

HCoV-19 (SARS-2) has caused >88,000 reported illnesses with a current case-fatality ratio of ~2%. Here, we investigate the stability of viable HCoV-19 on surfaces and in aerosols in comparison with SARS CoV-1. Overall, stability is very similar between HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1. We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1 exhibited similar half-lives in aerosols, with median estimates around 2.7 hours. Both viruses show relatively long viability on stainless steel and polypropylene compared to copper or cardboard: the median half-life estimate for HCoV-19 is around 13 hours on steel and around 16 hours on polypropylene. Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 is plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on surfaces up to days.

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #201 on: March 12, 2020, 03:35:18 pm »
It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly
I'm not sure "very deadly" is totally accurate.
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #202 on: March 12, 2020, 03:38:23 pm »
Welll didn’t 21 people or something die in one nursing home in Washington?

I know they were old but...



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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #203 on: March 12, 2020, 03:42:31 pm »
It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly
I'm not sure "very deadly" is totally accurate.

"situationally, quite lethal."

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #204 on: March 12, 2020, 03:45:13 pm »
I mean, if I'm just playing armchair epidemiologist, Ebola has a like 90% mortality rate. That is very deadly. SARS I think is at like 11%.

It is my understanding COVID-19 has a mortality rate of around 3% and a mortality rate of 0.7% outside of Wuhan (i.e. once it was identified and doctors had some idea what they were treating). This is not an instant death sentence. If 0.7% turns up to be an accurate number (and honestly, we really won't know until we are looking back on this thing with more data), that's a really awful flu on steroids. Even if the number gets as high as 2-3%, yes, this is a big time deal but I'm not sure "very deadly" in the context of other horrible viruses is accurate.

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #205 on: March 12, 2020, 03:50:06 pm »
Ok I can agree with you..I stand corrected


Guess if it spreads so easily that in a sense “amplifies” the death impact

I still wonder about that nursing home...

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #206 on: March 12, 2020, 03:54:25 pm »
Guess if it spreads so easily that in a sense “amplifies” the death impact

I still wonder about that nursing home...
Yeah, obviously 1% of a huge population is more than 11% of a much smaller group. Not wanting to give the impression this is a non-event for sure.
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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #207 on: March 12, 2020, 04:03:07 pm »
the university i work for is going to telework starting this weekend.  while mandatory quarantine would be great, people won't follow it. In Iceland, they had something like 30 cases that came in from people returning from a trip in italy.  All of them were told to stay at home.  Several did not and now they are up to over 100 cases and have community spread.  Interestingly they found 3 travelers inbound from the USA to have brought it into iceland as well.  It is spreading way more than just the official count at this point.

anyway, from having lived in baltimore during the uprising, where we had a curfew - I can tell you....people will defy it all.  but a good piont is, even if some people defy it, the people staying at home should help lesson the burden at hospitals.   I have been reading that you should only go to a hospital if you have high fever that doesn't break and/or trouble breathing.  Otherwise, stay at home and don't interact with anyone for at least 14 days after being sick.

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #208 on: March 12, 2020, 04:16:26 pm »
I mean, if I'm just playing armchair epidemiologist, Ebola has a like 90% mortality rate. That is very deadly. SARS I think is at like 11%.

It is my understanding COVID-19 has a mortality rate of around 3% and a mortality rate of 0.7% outside of Wuhan (i.e. once it was identified and doctors had some idea what they were treating). This is not an instant death sentence. If 0.7% turns up to be an accurate number (and honestly, we really won't know until we are looking back on this thing with more data), that's a really awful flu on steroids. Even if the number gets as high as 2-3%, yes, this is a big time deal but I'm not sure "very deadly" in the context of other horrible viruses is accurate.

IDK

The seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%.  If (and when?) the number of people who contract the coronavirus matches the number who get the flu, and if the mortality rate stays the same, somewhere between 6 and 10 million people will die.

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Re: COVID-19 2020
« Reply #209 on: March 12, 2020, 04:24:06 pm »
1st case of community transmission in MD.