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« Reply #600 on: March 17, 2025, 09:04:21 am »
seems like a great time to stop research on MRNA

I mean we were only on the cusp of curing Pancreatic and colorectal cancer, but ya know gotta make things more efficient
https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/mrna-cancer-vaccine-shows-promise-pancreatic-cancer
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« Reply #601 on: March 17, 2025, 11:13:40 am »
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« Reply #602 on: March 17, 2025, 11:32:51 am »
I was thinking that….never occurred to me they would shut it down

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« Reply #603 on: March 17, 2025, 11:50:44 am »
It’s an interesting question….can he undo stuff Biden did claiming that Biden never signed it?

nothing matters anymore.  he can just say whatever and run with it. 

of course the implication is that anything signed electronically is now invalid.  apparently i did not borrow hundreds of thousands of dollar to buy my house: i signed the mortgage papers via Docusign, so they're invalid!  yay free house!!!  oh wait - i signed my employment contract electronically as well, so...

so.  fucking.  stupid.
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« Reply #604 on: March 17, 2025, 11:56:41 am »

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« Reply #605 on: March 17, 2025, 12:06:29 pm »
here is something for everyone to be excited about....Salary Deflation!
your next job may pay less than your current one

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/job-seekers-hit-wall-of-salary-deflation/ar-AA1B2Xp4



unrelated, but an excellent David Brooks talk
How the Elite rigged Society (and why it’s falling apart) | David Brooks
They represent the educated elite, they are not pro-conservative, but anti-left.  They don't have a positive conservative vision for society, they just want to destroy the institutions the Left now dominates.

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« Reply #606 on: March 17, 2025, 01:06:29 pm »
https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/03/16/is-abortion-public-high-school-teaches-womens-history-month/

A if for "abortion", m is for "mansplain," q is for "queer," t is for "transgender women," z is for "male gaZe."

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« Reply #607 on: March 17, 2025, 01:20:45 pm »
https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/03/16/is-abortion-public-high-school-teaches-womens-history-month/

A if for "abortion", m is for "mansplain," q is for "queer," t is for "transgender women," z is for "male gaZe."

This reminds me of Nick Cave’s Let Love In

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« Reply #608 on: March 17, 2025, 01:29:54 pm »
My partner is concerned about “how did you become a US citizen???”

If you don’t hear from me guys I am probably in El Salvador and not on vacation…..
welp, I know for a fact you are not a good gardener, but I do rate you as a Swell Guy
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« Reply #609 on: March 17, 2025, 03:09:23 pm »
Why is the environment a ‘left’ issue?  Why would someone with ‘conservative values’ believe that environmental issues should dismissed and all science and common sense should be wholesale ignored?  Is that a ‘conservative’ response? Is that a ‘moral’ act?

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« Reply #610 on: March 17, 2025, 03:43:57 pm »
Why is the environment a ‘left’ issue?  Why would someone with ‘conservative values’ believe that environmental issues should dismissed and all science and common sense should be wholesale ignored?  Is that a ‘conservative’ response? Is that a ‘moral’ act?

depends - what do you mean by "conservative"?  actual textbook conservatism?  traditional GOP ("reagan") conservatism?  or whatever the hell the GOP has become, AKA trumpism?
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« Reply #611 on: March 17, 2025, 04:03:08 pm »
My brother-in-law is a republican.  He's been his whole life, even before Trump.  He lived in Salt Lake City and now, Mesquite, NV.  He loves skiing, hiking, taking his boat out on the water, etc. etc.  He thinks we should not fuck up the environment.  But he also thinks that's secondary to corporations making profit, and that infringing on an individual's liberties (in this case, the liberties of a CEO to steer his company) is the same as losing one's freedom.  In his mind, not a conflict at all.

I do think he's become increasingly skeptical of facts and science that he thinks come from "the left".  He sees it as manipulation by one side to infringe on those rights.  To be expected due to his media consumption for sure.   

But I also think the easier answer is: the people they hate thinks saving the climate is good, so they think it's bad.

Why is the environment a ‘left’ issue?  Why would someone with ‘conservative values’ believe that environmental issues should dismissed and all science and common sense should be wholesale ignored?  Is that a ‘conservative’ response? Is that a ‘moral’ act?
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« Reply #612 on: March 17, 2025, 05:53:32 pm »
I also recall a lot of the early 2000s and the incorporation of the Born Agains into to the movement's prominence having am effect in that "this world weas made by 'God' for man so we can do with it as we please". . .
 
WHAT?

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« Reply #613 on: March 17, 2025, 06:15:02 pm »
Honestly I think it ALL goes back to the Reagan Revolution. That’s when we went off the tracks and we just keep getting further away. Regulations are bad, greed is good, selfishness is great, if you are rich you are good if poor bad, government should do the least possible, kill the poor etc. 

Trump is the most consequential president since Reagan and definitely in the running to surpass LBJ.

The Democratic Party has been bereft of ideas for a long time (ie, “joy!”). Sort of let’s do republican lite and less scary and it has worked but it no longer does because Trump has co-opted the democrats with the white lower class.

I know this will raise the ire of some but I think the time is right to tack left. Someone like Bernie but not an old white man with a history of heart problems. And someone who isn’t an avowed socialist etc. You just have to give people a reason to show up to vote for you believing you can help them. Orange man bad didn’t work for Hillary and unbelievably Harris tripled down on it while the seals clapped.

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« Reply #614 on: March 17, 2025, 07:34:15 pm »
completely on board with nkotb's last point: reactionary tribalism.

Why is the environment a ‘left’ issue?  Why would someone with ‘conservative values’ believe that environmental issues should dismissed and all science and common sense should be wholesale ignored?  Is that a ‘conservative’ response? Is that a ‘moral’ act?

somewhat tangential, but i thought this was an interesting take: Why do Republicans believe so much stuff that is simply not true?

(Republicans) identified one narrow path to victory for Republicans in national elections. They had to divide the country along the lines of religion and race to win. Ronald Reagan used this to great effect in 1980. In making this change Republicans switched their base from fiscal conservatives to religious conservatives. This fundamentally changed the nature of the Republican Party.
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Their beliefs were the most important thing to them. The facts are less so. They were much more willing to create facts that align with their beliefs and then believe those facts than change their beliefs.
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