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Venerable Bede

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2003, 10:45:00 am »
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  http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/worstcalls/010730.html
 
 So where should this fall on this list, unfortunately the top two hurt teams I follow.
you went to mizzou???  how about that game last weekend?
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2003, 10:49:00 am »
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  you went to mizzou???  how about that game last weekend?
no, just from Missouri, great game last weekend, I saw a replay of the game after knowing the score and thought the score I saw was wrong because Missouri started scoring so late

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2003, 10:54:00 am »
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  you went to mizzou???  how about that game last weekend?
no, just from Missouri, great game last weekend, I saw a replay of the game after knowing the score and thought the score I saw was wrong because Missouri started scoring so late [/b]
my g/f graduated from mizzou, her sister goes to colorado, so we're going out to boulder for the colorado mizzou game.  i went to baylor, so i had a fine ol' time making fun of colorado last week.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2003, 11:19:00 am »
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Mank, the whole thing fell to shit right after that.  Of course it's a big deal; you can't discount the difference it might have made in the game.  
 
 By the way, has anyone on the board ever *met* a Marlins fan?  I'm from Fla, and I haven't. [/b]
Was it the same fan that ran out onto the field and tripped up the short stop so that he made a bollocks of that ball right after that?

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2003, 11:21:00 am »
But that play, Mank, didn't allow for all 8 runs.  If there'd been two outs going into the next batter, it likely would not have gone that far.
 
 If it had been a footie fan screwing up a play for Manchester, you'd have pulled of your skin by now.

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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2003, 11:32:00 am »
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  But that play, Mank, didn't allow for all 8 runs.  If there'd been two outs going into the next batter, it likely would not have gone that far.
 
 If it had been a footie fan screwing up a play for Manchester, you'd have pulled of your skin by now.
It could never happen in a football game because once the ball goes out it's dead, so there's no way a fan can get in the way unless he/she legs it on the field, at which point the game is stopped anyway.
 
 I just think the media and the Cubs fans are making more out of the incident that it merits....because it's the "curse of the Cubs" whoooooooo!
   :eek:

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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2003, 12:15:00 pm »
Sorry Mank, but I have to disagree with you.
 
 Two things, you never give the pros an extra out.  By eliminating that fan's actions, there would have been two outs.  The next pitch was a wild pitch that walked the guy, setting up first and third with one out instead of a runner on second with two outs.  That never would have happened.
 
 Next, Gonzo's error.  Well, had it been a runner on second and two outs the only play was to first to end the game and that would have done it.  He was thinking double play and rushed it and that's why he dropped a gimmee ground ball.
 
 Even if Gonzo drops the ball, Conine's sacrifice is taken out of the picture and it would have been tied at worst.
 
 The only other person who I think should share the blame is Dusty Baker.  It's the eighth inning and your pitcher has thrown 113 pitches - how in the hell do you not have somebody warming up in the bullpen?  Once the first guy got on, fine with a two run lead you can let Prior try to get an out (as long as someone is warming up -still no one up with a runner on second), but once there were two on with Pudge at the plate, you HAVE to go to the pen, but he couldn't because nobody was warmed up!  Then he had to rush Farnsworth in who wasn't ready and the route is already on!  
 
 The fan is an fucking idiot and gets most of the blame but Dusty should get the blame as well for yet another gmae 6 collapse.
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ratioci nation

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2003, 12:23:00 pm »
The fact is the Cubs gave up 8 runs, I will say the fan is at fault for 1 or 2 runs, but not 8.

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2003, 12:26:00 pm »
2003 World Series -- Yankees & Marlins
 
 
 yawn.......

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2003, 12:31:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  2003 World Series -- Yankees & Marlins
 
 
 yawn.......
shhhhhhh
 
 not so fast

ggw

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2003, 12:33:00 pm »
Anyone think that he will end up like that Colombian football (soccer) goalie?

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2003, 12:35:00 pm »
This man must leave Chicago, now.  The Sun may have seen it as a personalized feature, but it's his "Wanted" poster.
 
 
 Man in stands described as diehard fan
 October 15, 2003
 
 BY ANNIE SWEENEY, FRANK MAIN AND CHRIS FUSCO
 
 The man some fans blame for Tuesday night's Cubs loss because he reached out and touched a foul ball that Moises Alou was trying to catch is a diehard Cubs fan who coaches youth baseball in the north suburbs.
 
 Steve Bartman, 26, works at Hewitt Associates, an international consulting firm in Lincolnshire.
 
 "He is an associate at Hewitt, and he is not coming to work today because of the incident," Suzanne Zagata-Meraz, a spokeswoman for Hewitt, said this morning. "That was a decision that Steve and [Human Resources] made together. We have been in contact with Steve."
 
 A man who answered the door at the Northbrook home where friends and a neighbor said Bartman grew up defended him, saying he only did what came naturally when a foul ball came his way.
 
 "He's a huge Cubs fan," said the man, who responded to "Mr. Bartman." "I'm sure I taught him well. I taught him to catch foul balls when they come near him."
 
 He declined to say any more and would not confirm what relation he is to Steve Bartman.
 
 A neighbor, Ron Cohen, said he has known the Bartman family for 20 years. He and others said Bartman was a graduate of the University of Notre Dame who played for and is now a coach for the Renegades, an elite youth baseball club in Niles.
 
 Cohen said he saw Bartman on Sunday and that Bartman told him then that he had tickets to Tuesday's game.
 
 "He felt great he got tickets to the game," said Cohen, 63.
 
 Cohen was watching the game on TV with his son, who grew up with "Stevie," when they recognized the man in the Renegades shirt.
 
 "I really was just surprised," said Cohen, who called Bartman's mother. "I think it's just a natural tendency. Everybody reaches. I'm not trying to defend him, but I think it's just a natural tendency. He may not have seen Alou coming."
 
 He described Bartman as a baseball fanatic.
 
 "He's a good kid, a wonderful son, never in any trouble," Cohen told a Sun-Times reporter. "I don't think he should be blamed at all. People reach for balls. This just happened to be a little more critical. If Florida didn't score all the runs, you wouldn't be standing here."

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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2003, 12:39:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Anyone think that he will end up like that Colombian football (soccer) goalie?
It's not too often I get to correct GGW, but Andres Escobar wasn't a goalie, he was the defender who scored the own goal in the Colombia v US match in 1994.
 
 And no, the gambling syndicate in the US is not like the gambling syndicate in Colombia.
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Re: Have you seen this man?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2003, 12:43:00 pm »
d'oh......

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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2003, 12:44:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Anyone think that he will end up like that Colombian football (soccer) goalie?
It's not too often I get to correct GGW, but Andres Escobar wasn't a goalie, he was the defender who scored the own goal in the Colombia v US match in 1994.
 
 And no, the gambling syndicate in the US is not like the gambling syndicate in Colombia. [/b]
Correct!   Helluva goal too!  :D