House of Blues Eyeing DC

[sonickteam2]

in my economics class, they teach that competition is what makes the market thrive!
 
 
 oh, and the house of blues chicago kicks ass    just sayin.

[eros]

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
  So you're saying more competition will drive the prices up? What kind of economic theory is that?
 

A screwed up one.  Venues get in bidding wars for artists and they pass those inflated prices on to you.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by eros:
   

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
  So you're saying more competition will drive the prices up? What kind of economic theory is that?
 

A screwed up one.  Venues get in bidding wars for artists and they pass those inflated prices on to you. [/b]

yes, in the basic economic theory, when prices go up, demand goes down.  
 
    however, in some cases, prices go up and demand stays the same, people just bitch about it more.
 
    if concert venues charge more, and you pay extra to go to the shows, well then it just goes to show what a bargain you were getting before!!!

[eros]

Originally posted by le sonick:
   

Originally posted by eros:
   

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
  So you're saying more competition will drive the prices up? What kind of economic theory is that?
 

A screwed up one.  Venues get in bidding wars for artists and they pass those inflated prices on to you. [/b]

yes, in the basic economic theory, when prices go up, demand goes down.  
 
    however, in some cases, prices go up and demand stays the same, people just bitch about it more.
 
    if concert venues charge more, and you pay extra to go to the shows, well then it just goes to show what a bargain you were getting before!!! [/b]

Yep.  Sounds like another commodity people were bitching about this year.  I wonder if Exxon could build a new venue downtown?  

[sonickteam2]

i am sure they can. and will soon!

[sweetcell]

the original post in this thread is dripping with cred: dissing the mega-corp, quotes from seth, and mentions of the birchmere and ben's chili bowl.
 
 when i talk to my friends in other states, they  are continously amazed at how many great shows I go to.  DC has a great mix of venues.  i'd much rather keep going to DAR (whose acoustics are just fine, folks) than have the starbucks of clubs come in here and ruin that mix.

[freakoretardo]

The best possible outcome of this would be for the 9:30 and the House of Blues to join forces and work together and put the stupid Patriot center out of the concert buisness.

[Christine Moritz]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
  the original post in this thread is dripping with cred: dissing the mega-corp, quotes from seth, and mentions of the birchmere and ben's chili bowl.

Um... that original post would be an article from the Washington Post.
 
 

[ggw]

There are really only a handful of decent shows at DAR and Patriot Center each year.  A bigger HOB-type place would not only take those shows, but would also take the gigs of bands that are playing larger venues in other cities but playing the 9:30 in DC (sometimes for multiple nights).
 
 I prefer the status quo.

[Christine Moritz]

So what can fans of the 9:30 do about all this?  Is this a "done deal"?  The NCRC is a private entity and can sell to whom it pleases, correct?  Should we be contacting Jim Graham (although he's already voiced his objections to the proposal)?

[Bags]

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
  So you're saying more competition will drive the prices up? What kind of economic theory is that?

Two venues of a similar size does not competition make -- trust me, I'm in a business that if we had only two suppliers in one area, we would not be allowed to sell our product at market prices. (Black Cat is half the size, so brings in different bands and doesn't constitute another competitor at the BoH/9:30 level).  
 
 So one competitor comes in, one that happens to be part of a vast corporation that can utilize revenues from other areas to increase payments to artists, and wala.  In order for 9:30 to get acts, it must pay more as well, and ticket prices go up.
 
 If there were 5 venues in the 800 - 1500 capacity range, that would be another matter.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
 I just don't see the point of seeing a band in a 2400-3500 capacity venue. At that point, it's not an artistic performance, it's an event. Yuck.

Have you been to some of the great clubs around the country that size?  And would you prefer Patriot Center??  If so, you can have it.  These are bands that aren't going to play 9:30, they're too big.  So instead you get DAR or Patriot Center, or god forbid the basketball arena at American U.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Christine Moritz:
  So what can fans of the 9:30 do about all this?  

dont go to the House of Blues.  its as simple as that!!!! no matter how badly you want to see a band playing there....dont!
 
  the ONLY way to get back at a business you dont like is to not give it your money.  its real simple (yet, seemingly impossible for some people!)

[vansmack]

Maybe their beer prices will be cheaper too.

[kosmo vinyl]

Having only lived in DC since the late 90s, I can only assume based on past tendencies  of anything historic here being torn down to build ugly office buildings, there was once grand movie theaters along the lines of the Fox in Detroit in the District?  Those are the type of large venue's better suited for 3K concerts, and obviously costly to build and schedule these days.  
 
 Converting Merriweather so that the pavilion in the winter has been discussed, although among other things they would have to pave the parking lot for winter use.

[azaghal1981]

Definitely some disconcerting news.     just sayin. [/b][/quote]The Atlantic City one is a boomy shithole though.