New Foo Fighters

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  it would interesting to see the bloggers reaction to  the cd which can't be copied to their iPods.  dmb and foos aren't good test cases, but Holey Moley would it get ugly if the next Firey Furnances CD was released like that...

I think the exact opposite is true.  Bloggers are fairly tech and internet literate and can quickly and easily find out how to defeat the copy controls.
 
 It's the more pop oriented and casual computer users that buy the DMB album and the Foo's that wouldn't know how to get around it that could potentially make the biggest stink.
 
 Just imagine a kid going up to their parents and asking for $10 more to buy the iTunes version of a CD they just bought at Target so it can play on the kids iPod.  I can see it a local news expose as I type this.... [/b]

true bloggers are more tech savvy.. but they also like to get up in arms about such barriers and wont take kindly to Apple being protrayed as a bad player in this issue.
 
 whats so funny about this whole madness is what its going to cost sony/bmg in manpower to deal with all these requests for support. of course those costs get passed right back to the artists...

[hostiledm]

Just an FYI on dual disks, Im not tech savy mind you, but I cant get the cd side to copy, or load on my mp3 player.
 
 The benifits of these disks do rule. The 5.1 mixes are great, but it does suck.

[kosmo vinyl]

i've heard you cant play the dual disc in slot loading players like car stereos... or you end up scratching the dvd side

[kosmo vinyl]

i need to go back and read some on the dual dics but i recall that the cd is not a standard format and get tripped up in players expecting a strict redbook(?) format

[hostiledm]

Yeah man, I just keep em' with my dvdaudio disks, and only use them in the dvd player. So whats the point of the cd side? nada. But I do still like the concept. Anything to get more releases in a 5.1 format.

[Darth Ed]

Originally posted by Darth Ed:
  Anybody know if it will rip on a Mac? I've purchased several copy-protected discs before and I've been able to rip them on my Mac every time. It seems the CD copy protection that I've encountered so far has only worked on Windows. I'm just wondering if the Foo Fighters disc uses the same kind of copy protection.

I know it's bad forum etiquette to answer your own question, but no one else did.     I just got back from Target where I picked it up for $9.98+tax (yeah, I know, but there's a Target about a mile from where I work), and I just popped both discs into my Mac, ripped them, and am copying them to my iPod as I write this...
 
 Copy protection? What copy protection?  

[Bags]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  i've heard you cant play the dual disc in slot loading players like car stereos... or you end up scratching the dvd side

f***, f***, f***....
 
 Well, I've got a mac, so I can download a friend's copy, right?
 
 -edit-
 Never mind, I'll head to Target!

[Yank]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  It's the full length Dead 60's CD out recently in the US... when I popped the CD into my work computer it promptly wanted me to install software in order to even listen to the thing... Same with the an import Doves  disc i won in a giveway. i'm certain it's the same copy protection software and was trying to find the logo to post here.  
 
 

Was the Doves cd a UK import?  I have the UK edition and there is no copy protection on the disc and you don't need any special software to listen to it on the pc.  I buy a lot of music over here and haven't seen any yet with that copy protection.

[kosmo vinyl]

<img src="http://www.fnac.com/help/img/logo_copy.gif" alt=" - " />
 
 This logo plus the phrase "Copy Controlled" or "Content Protected" are now the international do not buy signs.  
 
 The Doves CD that came with the Copy Control sw on the cd was the import version with the CD & DVD.

[Chip Chanko]

if anyone cares about what was posted at that thread, i copied the text before it was taken down.
 
 

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  wow, i would be really fucking pissed if i was a foo fighters fan ... no respect at all ...
 
 what's really funny, is that on the band's OFFICIAL message board, the admins are posting ways around the copy protection:
 
  http://www.foofighters.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=8335

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Chip Chanko:
  if anyone cares about what was posted at that thread, i copied the text before it was taken down.

I'd be interested. Do post.

[kosmo vinyl]

It should be interesting to note that any EMI CD that has the copy controlled software loaded on it is not labelled as a Compact Disc because it does not meet the specifications as set by Phillips.  It's a propritary format not guarenteed to play in all CD players.
 
 I popped in the Doves CD which has the Cactus protection installed and although it insists on wanting to install special sw to play Windowz media player started playing.  Easily defeatable but nonetheless a pain in the arse...
 
 Pop in the Dead 60's CD and you presented with a lengthy End User License Agreement, which you must agree to before you can proceed.  I'm sure buried somewhere in the agreement is a clause that says SonyBMG can sue the pants of you if one doesn't abhere to the agreement.  The CD pops out if you don't agree to the EULA.  Can't quite figure out what method is being used.  Although I would suspect it's the same as the Foo Fighters release.  I wonder if these CDs meet the Redbook standard.  
 
 If one wanted to give Sony a headache calling there 800 number to complain about defective CDs in mass could do it.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Can we not simply hold down SHIFT after putting the CD in and bypass all this nonsense, or have they gotten smarter?

[kosmo vinyl]

holding shift down only prevents the autoplay from kicking in... i still can't see the audio tracks on the cd... there are ways to defeat this..
 
 this bit being sent out to people requesting assistance in moving the songs to the iPod is priceless.
 
 "Please note an easier and more acceptable solution requires cooperation from Apple, who we have already reached out to in hopes of addressing this issue."
 
 Come on down Apple and bend over and insert our copy protection schema up your core.
 
 Note sure how prevalent this in anymore in Europe but some of the copy protection schemes being used were downright scary.  There tales of people having to take in slot loading Macs in for repair because the copy protected CD was recognized by the OS and thus could not be ejected.  CDs manufactured with less scratch resistence, shorter shelf life.  Ugh...

[Yank]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   <img src="http://www.fnac.com/help/img/logo_copy.gif" alt=" - " />
 
 This logo plus the phrase "Copy Controlled" or "Content Protected" are now the international do not buy signs.  
 
 The Doves CD that came with the Copy Control sw on the cd was the import version with the CD & DVD.

Weird!  I have a store bought copy of the cd with the dvd and there are no symbols like that on either disc.  I have no problem playing the cd on my pc or ripping the songs to mp3's.