Hey, just because I'm bobbing my head and smiling doesn't mean I'm NOT "seeing and listening" to the band. It means I'm having a good time and getting into the music. I agree about the obnoxious dancers who are either really plastered or trying to dance sexy for the boys, but a lot of us just like to get into the show and move around a little, being of course careful not to intrude on anyone else. The sullen standers belong, I think, in the balcony - that seems to be the dominant culture up there. If you're going to shove your way past me to stand right in front of the stage (this means you, 7 foot tall men everywhere), you have to expect that the more enthusiastic/moving/dancing fans will be up there.