Velvet Revolver roll call

[nkotb]

There are actually very few bands that I've ever stopped liking.  I generally tend to add bands to my listening reptoire rather than take them off.  GNR just has a huge nostalgic appeal to me.  I wouldn't ever buy Chinese Democracy if it came out, but throw in Appetite for Destruction, and I'm a happy guy.  Haven't listened to it in a while, but I still think it's a pretty great album.
 
 

Originally posted by pollard:
  I liked Guns n' Roses when I was 12, I also liked Poison and Cinderella when I was 12.  I don't get why everyone thinks so highly of them.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

They don't play many songs, do they?
 
 

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
 
 01> Sucker Train Blues
 02> Do It for the Kids
 03> Head Space
 04> Crackerman
 05> Illegal I
 06> It's So Easy *
 07> Fall To Pieces
 08> Big Machine
 09> Set Me Free
 10> Used To Love Her *
 11> Slither
 12> Sex Type Thing **
 13> Mr.Brownstone *
 14> Negative Creep **
 
 --
 * : GNR song
 ** : STP song
 *** : Nirvana song

[chaz]

Typical baiting by Rhett....
 
 

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  They don't play many songs, do they?
 
   

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
 
 01> Sucker Train Blues
 02> Do It for the Kids
 03> Head Space
 04> Crackerman
 05> Illegal I
 06> It's So Easy *
 07> Fall To Pieces
 08> Big Machine
 09> Set Me Free
 10> Used To Love Her *
 11> Slither
 12> Sex Type Thing **
 13> Mr.Brownstone *
 14> Negative Creep **
 
 --
 * : GNR song
 ** : STP song
 *** : Nirvana song

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[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I guess I should have phrased it as a question:
 
 Does this band play long songs, or are they shortchanging their fans on their hard earned $35 by giving them a short set?
 
 I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
 
 
 

Originally posted by chaz:
  Typical baiting by Rhett....
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  They don't play many songs, do they?
 
   

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
 
 01> Sucker Train Blues
 02> Do It for the Kids
 03> Head Space
 04> Crackerman
 05> Illegal I
 06> It's So Easy *
 07> Fall To Pieces
 08> Big Machine
 09> Set Me Free
 10> Used To Love Her *
 11> Slither
 12> Sex Type Thing **
 13> Mr.Brownstone *
 14> Negative Creep **
 
 --
 * : GNR song
 ** : STP song
 *** : Nirvana song

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[eltee]

No they didn't play many songs. The setlist from the other show is pretty much what they stuck to last night. Yeah, if Axl could get his sh*t together, I'd prefer to have him as the frontman. GnR is nostalgic for me as well. I'm not big on Scott Weiland. When they play GnR, they sound like a mix of STP and GnR (given, I know). When they play STP, it's the voice of STP w/ a band. Again, obvious. Their songs soon to be released aren't bad. A couple are a little long, but really, the band can play some serious guitar and drums. They were all over with energy on the stage. Slash can talk. Their fans will like the album. I'd rather see them w/ a different lead singer. On stage prancing doesn't bother me. He's not the first lead singer to do this.
 
 I liked the Nirvana cover the best. They brought it up from the original a few notches. The GnR songs were better than the STP songs.
 
 Aside from the band, the sound at the club [last night] is one of the better shows I've heard.
 Whoever was the DJ - good job.

[chaz]

No Rhett...I wasn't there but i'm sure it's as you so passive-agressively suggest - everyone got ripped off.  Your entertainment dollars were spent much more wisely.
 
 

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I guess I should have phrased it as a question:
 
 Does this band play long songs, or are they shortchanging their fans on their hard earned $35 by giving them a short set?
 
 I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
 
 
   

Originally posted by chaz:
  Typical baiting by Rhett....
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  They don't play many songs, do they?
 
     

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
 
 01> Sucker Train Blues
 02> Do It for the Kids
 03> Head Space
 04> Crackerman
 05> Illegal I
 06> It's So Easy *
 07> Fall To Pieces
 08> Big Machine
 09> Set Me Free
 10> Used To Love Her *
 11> Slither
 12> Sex Type Thing **
 13> Mr.Brownstone *
 14> Negative Creep **
 
 --
 * : GNR song
 ** : STP song
 *** : Nirvana song

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[eltee]

I dunno I don't really look at shows and tickets like in this. I do understand what you are asking and why you feel that way. I suppose if I'm really short-changed, and I mean on real lack of songs, or someone left the stage, yes, I would feel ripped off. But last night, no, I didn't. Yes, actually, a few of their songs were long (the new ones). I supposed they pack a lot into a short set by quality and energy. The price might be a little higher - it's two bands that have high recognition (whether you like them or not). Gotta pay for that sometimes.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I guess I should have phrased it as a question:
 
 Does this band play long songs, or are they shortchanging their fans on their hard earned $35 by giving them a short set?
 
 I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
 
 
   

Originally posted by chaz:
  Typical baiting by Rhett....
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  They don't play many songs, do they?
 
     

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
  Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
 
 01> Sucker Train Blues
 02> Do It for the Kids
 03> Head Space
 04> Crackerman
 05> Illegal I
 06> It's So Easy *
 07> Fall To Pieces
 08> Big Machine
 09> Set Me Free
 10> Used To Love Her *
 11> Slither
 12> Sex Type Thing **
 13> Mr.Brownstone *
 14> Negative Creep **
 
 --
 * : GNR song
 ** : STP song
 *** : Nirvana song

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[Bombay Chutney]

Not to mention you're seeing them in a venue much smaller than what they could have played.  That's gonna cost a little extra.  $35 sounds like a bargain for this one.
 
 At least they showed up, which is more than you could guarantee if Axl was in the band.

[nycmaddog]

Went.  Saw.  Mildly enjoyed.  Super glad I went, but I just can't get behind the band idea.  I'd sit and listen/watch Slash play all nigh long. Post "Core" I never cared much for STP (I think they turned their backs on a great album with each follow up).  I'll probably pick up the album with the hope that I'm missing something from the first few listens.  I hope this works out for all of them.  I'm not sure they get another run at their former glory if this one doesn't go.
 
 Good show.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I guess if I pay for a full show, I want at least 90 minutes of action.
 
 If I pay for a movie, I want a 90+ minute movie, not a 60 minute movie.
 
 If I pay for a four course meal, I want more than the entree.
 
 If I pay for a baseball game, I want 9 innings, not 6.
 
 If I paid for an NBA game, I'd want 4 quarters, not 3.
 
 If I paid for a hockey game (which I never would), I'd want three periods, not two.

[eltee]

Originally posted by nycmaddog:
  Went.  Saw.  Mildly enjoyed.  Super glad I went, but I just can't get behind the band idea.  I'd sit and listen/watch Slash play all nigh long.  

Me too. I don't really like Scott Weiland's voice.
 And yes, seeing them in a smaller venue was great.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
 I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
 

$12 and I bet they didnt sell out in ten minutes.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

No, that was Wilco. And I bet they will play more than 14 songs, even if they do throw in a couple more than 10 minutes in length. Got tickets for that one too. Thanks, Pollard.
 
 

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
 I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
 

$12 and I bet they didnt sell out in ten minutes. [/b]

[Celeste]

Originally posted by nkotbie:
  If there's anything NOT to like about them...

other than their sound?

[chaz]

These are all fine analogies but the issue I'm driving at is your need to always define for everyone what quality entertainment is or should be.
 
 And as far as set length goes...I've been to just as many shows where I wished the band played a shorter set as shows where I wished it was longer, maybe even more.  So for me, set length just isn't one of major defining criteria for how much I enjoy a show.  Everything I've heard about Velvet Revolver is that the shows are about hour and 15 or 20 min.  Seems just fine for a rock show to me.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I guess if I pay for a full show, I want at least 90 minutes of action.
 
 If I pay for a movie, I want a 90+ minute movie, not a 60 minute movie.
 
 If I pay for a four course meal, I want more than the entree.
 
 If I pay for a baseball game, I want 9 innings, not 6.
 
 If I paid for an NBA game, I'd want 4 quarters, not 3.
 
 If I paid for a hockey game (which I never would), I'd want three periods, not two.