I ain't no fortunate son

[vansmack]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  It's not political commentary.
 
 Snopes deals with internet hoaxes.  The claim that "The Draft Will Start in 2005" is a hoax, as is the claim that the "administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections," therefore it is definitely under their purview.
 
 Rangel (Democrat -- definitely not part of the Administration) himself stated that the bill would never pass and that he (and several other members of the congressional black caucus -- all Democrats) only sponsored it as a way to draw attention to the large numbers of lower-income and minority kids in the military.

I take issue with this:
 
 Status:   Probably not.
 
 While I agree that the subject is extremely misleading, and that the extra sentence you alluded to is also misleading, the other 20+ sentences are closer to fact than fiction.
 
 Snopes usually answers these types of hoxes with See Below and explains what I laid out above.  They don't normally say that an email is true or not because of its likelihood of being passed by Congress.

[Justin Tonation]

Originally posted by keithstg:
 Oh well. I will be 27 by then, so I assume it won't effect me. Were I to be drafted, I would certainly go. It seems to me that the nation asks little of us in return for the freedom we enjoy.

I don't remember where I read it but there is some pressure to extend the age into the low 30's.
 
 Also, if you actually believe that our current government's foreign policy is justified then you should volunteer yourself for service.

[Guiny]

Well I think It's a great idea, get some of these President/America bashing dead beat lazy ass's off the chat boards and into the trenches. Me, I'll be sitting my semi old, already been in the military butt at home and work typing "LOL" everytime I think about them in boot camp or working on a military installation.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
 Oh well. I will be 27 by then, so I assume it won't effect me. Were I to be drafted, I would certainly go. It seems to me that the nation asks little of us in return for the freedom we enjoy.

I don't remember where I read it but there is some pressure to extend the age into the low 30's.
 
 Also, if you actually believe that our current government's foreign policy is justified then you should volunteer yourself for service. [/b]

I never made any comment about foreign policy. All I said was that if drafted, I would go. That holds true for any administration under which I would be drafted.

[mankie]

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

. [/b]

I never made any comment about foreign policy. All I said was that if drafted, I would go. That holds true for any administration under which I would be drafted. [/QB]

You should consider moving to North Korea, you'd fit right in.

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  I wouldn't have missed my 10 years for anything, but then again, my government never sent me out to needless and personal wars.

What was that Islas Malvinas adventure then, eh?
 
  Two bald men fighting over a comb

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
 

You should consider moving to North Korea, you'd fit right in. [/b]

Or South Korea

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

. [/b]

I never made any comment about foreign policy. All I said was that if drafted, I would go. That holds true for any administration under which I would be drafted. [/b]

You should consider moving to North Korea, you'd fit right in. [/QB]

Why? Because I would do what was asked? Seems to me that you did the same thing.

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
   

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  You should consider moving to North Korea, you'd fit right in.

Or South Korea [/b]

Or Austria, Germany, Finland, Sweden, Greece, Norway, or Switzerland.

[mankie]

Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
   

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  I wouldn't have missed my 10 years for anything, but then again, my government never sent me out to needless and personal wars.

What was that Islas Malvinas adventure then, eh?
 
  Two bald men fighting over a comb [/b]

The Malvinas was straightforward really,
 
 We had British citizens living in a country that was invaded by Argentina, we went down, kicked their arses then came home again....no biggie!

[mankie]

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

[/b]

Why? Because I would do what was asked? Seems to me that you did the same thing. [/QB]

""That holds true for any administration under which I would be drafted. ""
 
 That's what I was responding to more than anything....would you still go willingly if Dubya decided to rid the world of jews for example?
 
 Seriously, I believe that everyone should serve at least 3 years, because it teaches you a lot about responsiblity, discipline and respect...but I just as strongly believe nobody should be forced to serve.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

[/b]

Why? Because I would do what was asked? Seems to me that you did the same thing. [/b]

""That holds true for any administration under which I would be drafted. ""
 
 That's what I was responding to more than anything....would you still go willingly if Dubya decided to rid the world of jews for example?
 
 Seriously, I believe that everyone should serve at least 3 years, because it teaches you a lot about responsiblity, discipline and respect...but I just as strongly believe nobody should be forced to serve. [/QB]

Of course not. I thought of that example after I posted, but didn't feel like editing that. I guess to give recent examples, I would have gone to Iraq / Afganistan, and Vietnam, although my dad was drafted to Nam and didn't end up there somehow.

[Tom Cashel]

Our nation's so freaking obese, if those bills do pass they'll have a tough time finding anyone who can pass the physical.

[Bags]

What about women being drafted?  At this point in our evolution as a society, that should probably be on the table, shouldn't it?
 
 Do any other countries draft women?

[ggw]

Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
  What about women being drafted?  At this point in our evolution as a society, that should probably be on the table, shouldn't it?
 
 Do any other countries draft women?

Israel, China and Malaysia.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_draft