stellastarr*

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Relaxer:
  And Sleater-Kinney will be long forgotten.

did one of them run over your puppy?  I don't have a strong opinion on the band but it is rare to see such dislike for a band.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

must be homophobia
 
 (kidding)
 
 

Originally posted by pollard:
   

Originally posted by Relaxer:
  And Sleater-Kinney will be long forgotten.

did one of them run over your puppy?  I don't have a strong opinion on the band but it is rare to see such dislike for a band. [/b]

[Richard D Taylor]

Something that I noticed about the Stellastar show was the vocalist was much better live than on the album.  He toned it down quite a bit judging from the few songs I caught, and I enjoyed the songs so much more because of it.  Had he sung like that on the album, I might've been able to listen to it...

[walkman]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Relaxer:
  in 10 or 15 years.....
 
 And Sleater-Kinney will be long forgotten.

Wanna put money on Stellastarr* versus Sleater-Kinney reputations in 2014?
 
 Yes, I just acknowledged a virtual non-sequiter.      [/b]

My $$$ is on SK...Stellastarr have taken two or three steps too many towards MTV2.

[markie]

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 
 
 I predict Stellastarr is going to reach Smashing Pumpking/Nine Inch Nails level of success in a couple years/records.  

I predict that you are going to be taken away in a green van by the men in white coats. Dont worry, the walls will all be soft.
 
 Stellastarr* are thoroughly disposable pop, cynically cashing in on some sort of 80s revival. I think what they are doing is good. I enjoyed the show, but superstars, I really do not see it.
 
 I think you are too dismissive of ambulance, thier recorded material is much better than their live show.
 
 I wasnt impressed that much by the other band.
 
 I think you might have been drunk?

[Relaxer]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 
 
 I predict Stellastarr is going to reach Smashing Pumpking/Nine Inch Nails level of success in a couple years/records.  

I predict that you are going to be taken away in a green van by the men in white coats. Dont worry, the walls will all be soft.
 
 Stellastarr* are thoroughly disposable pop, cynically cashing in on some sort of 80s revival. I think what they are doing is good. I enjoyed the show, but superstars, I really do not see it.
 
 I think you are too dismissive of ambulance, thier recorded material is much better than their live show.
 
 I wasnt impressed that much by the other band.
 
 I think you might have been drunk? [/b]

I was drunk at Sleepy Jackson, and that still pretty much blew. At Stellastarr, I was broke so was going light on the whiskey.
 
 You could be right, they could pass through like Ultrasound, ARE Weapons or others that didn't fulfill the hype, but something about them strikes me. I'm assuming that they are going to build on their sound and get better too. I don't understand the 80's retro charge, though there is something that sounds familiar about them.
 
 I won't write off Ambulance, but I was ready to like them a lot after the Killers and couldn't find anything to grab onto.
 
 And I just threw in the additional Sleater-Kinney slam because... I am a prick. Though I must admit, they are one of the few bands that I actively dislike (I don't like bands that lecture and chide the audience, and they do).

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

In the year 2014, neither Sleater-kinney nor stella* will be making music. The fickle indie hpye followers will have passed them by.
 
    S/K will become three attractive, middle-aged soccer moms living in northwestern suburbs.
 
    Stella* will be living off of their trust funds, making art that nobody buys, living in condos that they bought in 2006 in what was an up-and coming NYC neighborhood which by 2014 had turned passe', then yuppie.

[markie]

Sorry to rip into you.
 
 I am just bitter that there were 3 times as many people at stellastarr* than the delgados. But the Delgados were 30 times better.
 
 When a band starts of so derivative of an era, if not a particular group I have a hard time to imagine them becoming huge. I guess bands like radiohead moved on. Most reverred bands I can think of started out sounding different.
 
 I dont particularly care for Sleater Kinney either.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 (I don't like bands that lecture and chide the audience, and they do).

During their shows?  I've seen them three times, never been lectured to....  If you're talking about lyrics, #1, I don't see it, and #2, I'll bet a HELL of a lot of bands you listen to have a point of view in their lyrics.  Otherwise you have a pretty small CD library...

[Bags]

Originally posted by Friend of Guy Balls:
  In the year 2014, neither Sleater-kinney nor stella* will be making music. The fickle indie hpye followers will have passed them by.

We never said they'd still be playing -- but who's reputation will have lasted?  And remember, S-K have already been around for 13 years, just getting stronger....       I wouldn't really call that hype.

[brennser]

(I don't like bands that lecture and chide the audience, and they do).  

I have a suggestion, aside from stick it up yer ass, which I still strongly urge you to do.
 
 Listen to Billy Bragg - you'd love him   :p

[Relaxer]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 (I don't like bands that lecture and chide the audience, and they do).

During their shows?  I've seen them three times, never been lectured to....  If you're talking about lyrics, #1, I don't see it, and #2, I'll bet a HELL of a lot of bands you listen to have a point of view in their lyrics.  Otherwise you have a pretty small CD library... [/b]

I have two S-K bootlegs and at the start of both of them, they tell the audience to not smoke, and in the middle of one of them, they tell the audience to stop slamdancing. Now, I don't smoke nor slam, and am sometimes annoyed by those that do, but it's a rock'n'roll show. If I want to be lectured, I'd go back to school.
 
 I will acknowledge the fact that S-K has had a longer-than-usual musical career, and I commend that and am envious of it, but then again, so has Lenny Kravitz and Jewel.
 
 And MarkE, I appreciate your opinion and I'm not going to slag anyone's PoV that they're derivative, I just don't see it and am curious what exactly they are derivative of. I'm listening to the album now and it reminds me of 'Gish' -- which at the time was accused of being derivative of Jane's Addiction.
 
 Oh, for the person who is so obsessed with sticking things up my ass, any chance you're capable of keeping the subject matter focused on the music without obsessing about anal cavities? No? Didn't think so.

[jkeisenh]

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 

Originally posted by Bags:
 I have two S-K bootlegs and at the start of both of them, they tell the audience to not smoke, and in the middle of one of them, they tell the audience to stop slamdancing. Now, I don't smoke nor slam, and am sometimes annoyed by those that do, but it's a rock'n'roll show. If I want to be lectured, I'd go back to school.
 [/b]

SK is one of those bands preoccupied with being accessible.  They struggle to keep show prices down, to make sure they book all-ages shows, and to make sure everyone's welcome.  It's a feminist thing as much as it's a nice-people thing.  Their smoking and dancing rants are about the same thing-- that you're there to enjoy the music with *other* people, who should be able to enjoy it too, right?
 
 I agree that lectures are no fun, but I think both things they were talking about were well warranted...

[markie]

Lets start easy,
 
 Ok, Pulp song (last track) actually does sound like a song by Pulp, the britpop pioneers.
 
 
 With most of the songs you could think of another band who has been a direct influence. They score points over, say interpol, though as they dont appear to rip off any melodies directly.
 
 Do they really not sound very 80s to you?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

How does this make them more feminist? Just how do you define "feminist"?
 
 SK is one of those bands preoccupied with being accessible. They struggle to keep show prices down, to make sure they book all-ages shows, and to make sure everyone's welcome. It's a feminist thing as much as it's a nice-people thing.