Hip Hop

[shoot ur shot]

Oh yea I'd like to add Oc - Word.. Life. It was released around the same time as Illmatic and the only reason it's so obscure now is because it was completely overshadowed by the hype machine and expensive promotion surrounding Illmatic at the time. O.C. could very well have had Nas's career. It was just a matter of bad timing and poor marketing. I'll be honest and say I think Illmatic is better but Word.. Life is about as good of a rap album as you'll ever hear. On a related note, O.C. is actually making a rare DC appearance opening for Heiroglyphics & Non Phixion at the 930 in August. Hopefully, he'll stick to older material.

[HoyaSaxa03]

i'd take "paul's boutique" before "check your head", although they're both indispensible
 
 some other random rec's:
 
 a tribe called quest - anthology
 -- good starter album for tribe
 
 black star
 -- one of the best hip-hop albums of all time
 
 cee-lo green is the soul machine
 -- great genre-busting "urban" music
 
 common, "like water for chocolate"
 
 deltron 3030, "deltron 3030"
 -- very not-wack "indie" hip-hop
 
 little brother, "the listening"
 
 OUTKAST, "ATLiens"
 -- will always be my favorite hip-hop album, great end-to-end
 
 people under the stairs, "question in the form of an answer"
 
 the roots, "things fall apart"
 -- simply incredible
 
 talib kweli & hi-tek, "reflection eternal"
 -- wow
 
 anything by MF doom/viktor vaughn/madvillain/king geedorah
 -- more not-wack indie
 
 nas, "it was written"
 -- nothing can hold a candle to illmatic, but i like nas, even his cheesy stuff, and this is my 2nd fav album
 
 2pac, "all eyez on me"
 -- everyone needs to own this album
 
 dre, "the chronic"
 -- see above
 
 gza, "liquid swords"
 -- whenever i hear the opening intro, its hard to turn this album off
 
 method man, "Tical"
 
 mobb deep, "hell on earth"
 
 biggie, "ready to die"
 -- see 2pac and dre
 
 snoop, "doggystyle"
 -- you have nas, but you don't have this??
 
 wu-tang, "enter the wu-tang"
 -- must-have

[beetsnotbeats]

Check out Newark's  dälek. Their recent CD  Absence is one of this year's best.
 
 "Dälek is a band that's been around the world more times than most, playing shows and expanding minds since 1997. Quiet for almost a full year after constant DIY touring with such bands as Mike Patton's Tomahawk, ISIS, KRS-One, De La Soul, The Melvins, Grandmaster Flash, and fresh off of a landmark collaboration and release with Germany's krautrock legends Faust, dälek are back with their third and most sonically challenging full length to date, Absence. Expanding their sound and pulling from their influences, Absence recalls the best parts of Public Enemy and the Bomb Squad, the street poetry of KRS-1, the raw beats of Gang Starr and Mobb Deep, and the fearlessness of the avant garde, like Glenn Branca, My Bloody Valentine and Penderecki."
 
     - from  Forced Exposure

[definitivedoodle]

how could you 930 heads forget about
 
 KRS ONE
 
 BOOM BAP
 
 you guys know 930 gets a shout out on the 1st track of his latest cd...

[PigIron]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  For clarification sake, is there a difference in your eyes between rap and hip hop?

Rap - Generic bling-bling thug music that needs image to sell.  Not to say its horrible, some may be good in one's opinion, but very cookie-cutter.
 Hip hop - Genre in which artists contribute thoughtful lyrics to beats.
 
 I don't know how old the poster is but older stuff: Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Eric B. and Rakim,  Gang Starr, NWA, Run DMC, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T.  PE and Tribe you cannot go wrong with any record.  Most of these have best of records by now.
 
 Newer stuff: Im getting older so I'm losing touch, but Roots, Common, Outkast and Jurassic 5 are all great.  Also, newer Mos Def is pretty damn good!

[PigIron]

Originally posted by PigIron:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
  For clarification sake, is there a difference in your eyes between rap and hip hop?

Rap - Generic bling-bling thug music that needs image to sell.  Not to say its horrible, some may be good in one's opinion, but very cookie-cutter.
 Hip hop - Genre in which artists contribute thoughtful lyrics to beats.
 
 I don't know how old the poster is but older stuff: Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Eric B. and Rakim,  Gang Starr, NWA, Run DMC, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T.  PE and Tribe you cannot go wrong with any record.  Most of these have best of records by now.
 
 Newer stuff: Im getting older so I'm losing touch, but Roots, Common, Outkast and Jurassic 5 are all great.  Also, newer Mos Def and Talib is pretty damn good! [/b]

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[chaz]

I'd reccommend anything by:
 
 MC Hammer
 NKOTB (New Kids on the Block)
 Kriss Kross
 
 Those should get you started.

[thirsty moore]

Charles de Gaulle
 
 Thank you for your recommendations.  I will take note of them.

[chaz]

Originally posted by econo:
  Charles de Gaulle
 
 

I like it!

[ratioci nation]

this thread would never have been here in the good old days, I am very disappointed in you econo, very, cant we talk about coldplay

[thirsty moore]

What can I say.  I'm a downwardly mobile white guy that needs to develop other tastes.

[sonickteam2]

get anything by Latryx, Lateef, Quannum, Lyrics born, blackalicious or gift of gab.
 
  its much more creative and "today" than anything put out in the 90s!

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by econo:
  What can I say.  I'm a downwardly mobile white guy that needs to develop other tastes.

well then just buy everything by 3rd Bass

[thirsty moore]

Nice.