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starcrash

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2004, 09:53:00 am »
Has anyone else seen the Victoria Secret commercial featuring Bob Dylan?  It is so weird, sad, and funny.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2004, 10:09:00 am »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  So what's your favorite artists from 1900-1949?  
I meant the Rock and Roll era. Which probably really started in the 50s. The 50s thing was just a nod to Rhett and his liking of music from a past decade, but not the 80s.
 
 Oh yea and what Pollard said. [/b]
I totally admit to not liking the Beach Boys but enjoy many of the bands influenced by them.  And tis fine if you were just taking a shot at Rhett about 50's music.  But to disregard an entire decade of the most influential music for future generations seems a bit closed minded.  I would suspect that Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Elvis, Sam Cooke, Larry Williams, Bill Haley, Carl Perkins, The Isley Brothers, Otis Redding, Eddie Cochran, just to mention a few will have longer lasting impact then say Soft Cell, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Myracle Brah, Elbow, Adam Green, etc.
 
 I'm listening to a neat compliation called "The American Roots of the British Invasion", which has the orginial American artists recordings of songs later recorded by British Invasion artists.
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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2004, 10:09:00 am »
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  I love it when people make fun of the people that still go to 80's shows when they are going to freakin' 60's-70's shows.    :roll:  
You go and see crap like Berlin and Flock of seagulls. Its not that its old that I take umbridge with, its that it was crap at the time. I like music from every decade except the 50's, I save that for Rhett. The only people who do not like music from more than one decade are Guiny and Mankie, who only go to shows if the band or its members acheived fame in the 80's.
 
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Was BDB from the 80's? What about T-Rex? How about early Beatles? Marianne Faithfull? Solas? Oasis? B&S? (to name just a few)
 
 The 80's were the best decade for music...not the only one.
 
 As for some of the reunion tours, I will agree that, for the most part, many reunion bands coming out were shit the first time round. Duran Duran were nothing more than the N'Sync of their time and Flock of Seagulls would never have sold a record without the silly haircut. Many others however still sound much better than the 15 minute kids of today.
 
 BTW Did anyone see the article on this very issue that was on the front page of USA Today last week. It was about college students who, thanks to the internet, have realized that bands from the past are much better than the shit of today, and these bands (Queen, Led Zepp, Pink Floyd) are finding increases in sales, and college students are now rifling through their parents album collections for other treasures.....I'm telling you, todays music cannot hold a candle to bands from the past.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2004, 10:15:00 am »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   
I would suspect that Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Elvis, Sam Cooke, , Bill Haley, The Isley Brothers, Otis Redding, Eddie Cochran, just to mention a few will have longer lasting impact then say Soft Cell, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Elbow, Adam Green, etc.
  [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 You will be pleased to note that somewhere in the UK, I have a collection of 7 inch vinyl that includes all of whats left of the first list.
 
 I have all of what is left on the second list here on CD.
 
 
 Its not very forward thinking just sucking up back-catologues. Plus it means you would never get to see a good show, like the position Mankie is in.

Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2004, 10:16:00 am »
Mike Peters brought his vintage music and fighting spirit to Jaxx on Saturday. In his prime, Peters, the founding frontman of '80s British rant-rockers the Alarm, put antiwar and anti-poverty tirades over a melody and beat that any suburbanite could easily absorb. These days, he's railing about ageism in pop music.
 
 "There's a force operating against our generation!" Peters, now 45, told the crowd made up mainly of folks of a similar age, while introducing a recently recorded track, "45 RPM." Because the music industry showed no interest in the reconstituted Alarm, Peters released that song under the group name the Poppyfields, and even filmed a video for "45 RPM" with handsome lads posing as the band. The tactic worked, in the short term. The garage-rock tune got rave reviews. But when Peters confessed that the geezerly Alarm was behind the music, a backlash ensued. A critic for the Guardian put the Alarm's return on a list of the 10 worst reunions in rock history and warned fans to look out for "sweaty anthems about guns and storms."
 
   
 
 But the folks who came to Jaxx wanted an evening of sweaty anthems. And the Alarm -- now consisting of Peters and '80s vets guitarist James Stevenson (Generation X), bassist Craig Adams (the Mission) and drummer Steve Grantley (Stiff Little Fingers) -- complied with vigor.
 
 Among the period pieces was "Absolute Reality," which took on the president of the United States (that would mean Ronald Reagan). And "Strength," which sounds even more like U2 than it did two decades ago, had him begging, "Give me someone to live for!" The crowd supplied whoa-oh-oh-ohs in all the right places. As they left the club, fans were invited to have Peters record their favorite Alarm rant with a personal dedication for $150.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2004, 10:20:00 am »
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 BTW Did anyone see the article on this very issue that was on the front page of USA Today last week. It was about college students who, thanks to the internet, have realized that bands from the past are much better than the shit of today, and these bands (Queen, Led Zepp, Pink Floyd) are finding increases in sales, and college students are now rifling through their parents album collections for other treasures.....I'm telling you, todays music cannot hold a candle to bands from the past.
I thought this had been going on forever. If the radio does not play good music a resourceful person will seek it elsewhere.
 
 I picked you out because you listen to very little modern music.... so you want to go to very few shows, unless they are of older acts. It is something you and Guiny have in common.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2004, 10:20:00 am »
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 Duran Duran were nothing more than the N'Sync of their time....
 
 .....I'm telling you, todays music cannot hold a candle to bands from the past.
Duran Duran wrote their songs.  HUGE difference, and while they're no Dylan or Bowie, they wrote some great songs.
 
 As for that last supposition, I believe time will prove you wrong.  That's an AWFULLY broad brush you just stroked with....there will certainly be bands that withstand the test of time.  I'll bet if you look at this in percentages, each decade has a generally similar proportion of its music that stays influential.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2004, 10:25:00 am »
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
 Duran Duran were nothing more than the N'Sync of their time....
 
 .....I'm telling you, todays music cannot hold a candle to bands from the past.
Duran Duran wrote their songs.  HUGE difference, and while they're no Dylan or Bowie, they wrote some great songs.
 
 As for that last supposition, I believe time will prove you wrong.  That's an AWFULLY broad brush you just stroked with....there will certainly be bands that withstand the test of time.  I'll bet if you look at this in percentages, each decade has a generally similar proportion of its music that stays influential. [/b]
Sorry, Duran Duran songs are shite, take a look at the lyrics...  "I smell like a sound....."
 
 The rest of what you say is true. There is plenty of good mmusic being made today.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2004, 10:30:00 am »
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 Sorry, Duran Duran songs are shite, take a look at the lyrics...  "I smell like a sound....."
 
What is that from?  I didn't say all there songs are good, but I think their first two albums are great.  They're dance songs, what the hell do I care what they're saying?

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2004, 10:33:00 am »
Its in the Chorus, too  :roll:  
 
 
 Dark in the city night is a wire
 Steam in the subway earth is afire
 Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
 Woman you want me give me a sign
 And catch my breathing even closer behind
 Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
 
 In touch with the ground
 I'm on the hunt I'm after you
 Smell like I sound I'm lost in a crowd.
 And I'm hungry like the wolf.
 Straddle the line in discord and rhyme
 I'm on the hunt I'm after you.
 Mouth is alive with juices like wine
 And I'm hungry like the wolf
 Its just fluff, the words are made up
 
 Stalked in the forest too close to hide
 I'll be upon you by the moonlight side
 Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
 High blood Drumming on your skin it's so tight
 You feel my heart I'm just a moment behind
 Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
 
 In touch with the ground
 I'm on the hunt I'm after you
 Scent and a sound. I'm lost and I'm found
 And I'm hungry like the wolf.
 Strut on a line it's discord and rhyme
 I howl and I whine I'm after you
 Mouth is alive all running inside
 And I'm hungry like the wolf.
 
 Hungry like the wolf
 Hungry like the wolf
 Hungry like the wolf
 
 Burning the ground I break from the crowd
 I'm on the hunt I'm after you
 I smell like I sound. I'm lost and I'm found
 And I'm hungry like the wolf
 Strut on a line it's discord and rhyme
 I'm on the hunt I'm after you
 Mouth is alive with juices like wine
 And I'm hungry like the wolf

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2004, 10:38:00 am »
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 The 80's were the best decade for music...not the only one.
 
 
There was some great music released in the 80's but the more back catalog stuff I listen to from the 60's that decade gets my nod.  Sit down and listen to the Nuggets comps or a good Northern comp and you realize that the amazing performances  presented were recorded virtually live in the studio without the benefits of multitracking, digital editing, etc.  It was a period when both Image and Talent were important.  Now a days Image is Everything.  Anyone can be made to song like a singer with talent through Protools. It's not to say that the 60's didn't have their share of artists with more image than talent.  Diane Ross being a good example.  I find on a whole 60's music to be more full of spirit than later decades.
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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2004, 10:39:00 am »
No thoughts on the Dylan Victoria Secret ad?  Is the loveable Dylan a super "sell out" or not?

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2004, 10:45:00 am »
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Originally posted by starcrash:
  No thoughts on the Dylan Victoria Secret ad?  Is the loveable Dylan a super "sell out" or not?
I say let him have his cake....he's earned it.  Getting paid *and* surrounded by chicks in lingerie?  Good for him...apparently he has alimony issues and is pretty strapped (not 'strapped' like we might experience it, but it's all relative).

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2004, 10:47:00 am »
I just see so many discussions on this board about artists lending their music to commercials, that I had to point this out.  I find the commercial odd, but it makes me want to buy panties.

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Re: Dylan at AU
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2004, 11:41:00 am »
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....there will certainly be bands that withstand the test of time.  [/b]
Name them.