Nightclub Bill Seeks to Protect Underage Guests, and D.C

[xneverwherex]

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Many of those commenters sound like poorly-educated backwoods hicks from outside the beltway...

some of them are pretty funny comments, but i really liked the only about having the 'teen' night at the clubs. it reminds me, growing up in CA (bay area), my cousin and I used to go to The Edge in Palo Alto for their monthly teen nights. We did meet the guys from Skankin Pickle, and did learn how to skank there. Im pretty sure some good came out of it    (probably my love for ska music)!
 
 It wasnt strictly limited to 16 and under, i think it was 18 or something. Not such a bad idea. Granted - this was Palo Alto. I doubt SF had anything like this, but I could have just forgotten.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Whatever happened to all ages hardcore shows? When I was in college, the kids went to those, and the adults 21+ went to the local alt-rock club for shows. And it wasn't a big deal. When did rock clubs decide to tap so heavily into the kiddie market, anyway?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

And I have to dispute Hoya's statistics. More people may DIE in traffic accidents, but more people are victims of crimes of violence.
 
 In 2005, U.S. residents age 12 or older experienced approximately 23 million crimes, according to findings from the National Crime Victimization Survey.
 -- 77% (18.0 million) were property crimes
 
 -- 22% (5.2 million) were crimes of violence
 
 -- 1% (227,000) were personal thefts.
 
 
 The 1998 NHTSA report "Traffic Safety Facts 1998 Annual Report" reports 41,471 fatalities and 3,192,000 injuries, 414,960 of them serious.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  And I have to dispute Hoya's statistics. More people may DIE in traffic accidents, but more people are victims of crimes of violence.
 
 In 2005, U.S. residents age 12 or older experienced approximately 23 million crimes, according to findings from the National Crime Victimization Survey.
 -- 77% (18.0 million) were property crimes
 
 -- 22% (5.2 million) were crimes of violence
 
 -- 1% (227,000) were personal thefts.
 
 
 The 1998 NHTSA report "Traffic Safety Facts 1998 Annual Report" reports 41,471 fatalities and 3,192,000 injuries, 414,960 of them serious.

i was referring to the abject fear in the minds of many of "random" acts of street violence, not getting beat up by your husband or some neighborhood acquaintance over a prior beef ... if you look inside those statistics you'll see that you are much more likely to be hurt in a car accident than in a "random" violent crime
 
 and just as most violent crimes are between people who know each other, i'd hazard to guess that the overwhelming majority of car accidents are "random"
 
 additionally, focusing solely on death is a common misstep made by the federal government when quantifying risk ... real people care deeply about injuries and maiming (or the humiliation of being mugged) and focusing just on fatality statistics is very misleading

[sonickteam2]

all these statistics dont show shit anyway.
 
   the initial statement was thats its just as dangerous to be driving in the burbs as it is to be walking down the street in a city.
 
   but rhett's stats dont compare crimes in the city to crimes in the burbs.
 
   nor does it take into effect that people are driving a lot less than they are not driving.

[godsshoeshine]

but if you're driving, then you are safe from the negroes

[HoyaSaxa03]

there were 2,788,000 traffic injuries in 2004, or 1,172 traffic injuries for every 100,000 registered vehicles on the road ...
 
 there were 1,287,981 violent crimes in 2005, and while a cursory glance at the FBI Uniform Crime Reports reveals that the relationship of violent crime victims and offenders isn't reported, they do report the relationship of homicide victims to their attackers ....  of 14,860 homicides in 2005, 2,070 (or about 14%) were committed by a "stranger" ... extrapolated to all violent crimes, there were about 180,000 "random" violent crimes ... this is an admittedly faulty approach, and i'm sure you could find a better statistic somewhere, but it's probably good enough to get a very rough estimate
 
 the numbers aren't even close
 
 and now i'm angry at myself for spending 5 minutes looking this shit up, thanks

Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
 Nightclub Bill, that old hornswaggler once said that Current FBI Uniform Crime Reports are written by The Ministry Of Truth.

[HoyaSaxa03]

i apologize, i found better violent crime stats:
 
 5,173,710 violent crime victims
 2,369,150 victimized by strangers
 
 and still 2,788,000 traffic injuries
 
 the numbers are obviously much closer, and could be broken-down into the DC area, but i'm already so fucking angry that i wasted time actually looking into this that instead i'm going to sign off the board for the day ...

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  but if you're driving, then you are safe from the negroes

But what about the octaroons?

[godsshoeshine]

half safe

[you be betty]

This is ridiculous.  Do you really consider men on the street hitting on your wife a serious issue?
 
 I know you're not a chick, but get used to it.  It happens to women all the time.  EVERYWHERE.  Suburbs and cities.  And it's not something serious or criminal - it just happens.  So you put your head down and keep walking.  Or you tell them you're a hermaphrodite.  Either way, it is always harmless.  Women always deal with this and unless we are touched or followed, think nothing of it.  So if this is the worst you all have been harassed around the 9:30 club...

[godsshoeshine]

but you see betty, they were negroes

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  some of them are pretty funny comments, but i really liked the only about having the 'teen' night at the clubs. it reminds me, growing up in CA (bay area), my cousin and I used to go to The Edge in Palo Alto for their monthly teen nights. We did meet the guys from Skankin Pickle, and did learn how to skank there. Im pretty sure some good came out of it     (probably my love for ska music)!
 

same here; loved the edge. i can't even remember all the shows i saw there when i was in high school.  as for skankin pickle, some friends of mine convinced the powers-that-be at my high school to let them play during our lunch one time during senior year.  "i'm hulk hogan, i am losing all my hair"

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

I've never met Rhett and Celeste, I have no idea what they're really like, but this is what I picture...
 
 A big guy with cowboy boots and a mullet walking down the streets with Celeste in tow, tight jeans, blonde feathered hair, fake boobs, red heels...
 
 As he passes the African-American community on his way to the club someone's eyeballs land upon his wife's substantial booty...
 
 Rhett decides he must defend his wife's honour, brushes back his mullet hair, and says something confrontational...
 
 and the situation escalates from there...