Nightclub Bill Seeks to Protect Underage Guests, and D.C

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 Try living in rural Nebraska.
 

yeah, THOSE kids turn out fine!!
 
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[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Personally, I feel like establishments that serve liquor should be 18+ for entrance and 21 to drink. Thus, in my mind it is an adult nightclub.
 
 But you're right, my main point, the assbiting incident. It happened at the last Drive By Truckers 9:30 show. I mentioned in on the thread for the show, and someone else actually confirmed seeing it happen (so it's not my imagination!). There was a drunk guy who was grabbing and harassing the women standing near us on the balcony. Doing my best NOT to get involved (so as to avoid a fracas and potentially lose our standing position and miss the show), I ignored what was going on, until the guy started repeatedly biting my ass. I turned around and slapped him in the head, and he stopped...so I turned around and started watching the show again. Next thing I knew, out of the side of my eye, I saw 9:30 staph grab him and haul his ass away. Not sure if someone had alerted them, or if they just had a good eye.
 
 

Originally posted by nkotb:
  I don't think anyone would logically argue against that, but doesn't the mere fact that the 9:30 Club is "all ages, all the time" mean that it's NOT an adult club?
 
 Of course, that's not to gloss over the real point of your post.  A man assaulted you by repeatedly biting your ass?
 
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  My point was that there are plenty of other things for children to do in the world, other than hanging out late on a weeknight in an adult nightclub.

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[godsshoeshine]

what show was the bottle incident?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Why, were you the perpetrator?
 
 It was a Cracker/Camper combo show.
 
 
 

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what show was the bottle incident?

[godsshoeshine]

i wish!
 
 nah, nothing like that has ever happened to me at 930, and i was also at the dbt show. just curious about the other, more extreme incident

[you be betty]

Your argument is further discredited by the fact that you have not even told us WHY they should be 21+.  Other than the fact that you are quite possibly a huge asshole, or just have something against teenagers having the opportunity to live a good life, for some reason.  
 
 The DC music scene has always thrived upon the all-ages aesthetic.  Ian Mackaye was 17 YEARS OLD when the Teen Idles began.  18 with Minor Threat.  Part of the culture and appeal of this music scene is the fact that it is accessible to kids of all-ages, and it always has been.  I'm really sorry if you don't like kids, but regardless, most of what we have today wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for those teenagers attending and playing the shows that they played in the late 70s.  
 
 I don't know why you see something wrong with giving kids an outlet.  They aren't stopping you from drinking or having a good time at shows.  If they are, you are far too easily irritable.  
 As far as I'm concerned, if someone gets something  really valuable out of what we have, and it's safe, why the hell deny that of them?
 
 I had a lot of friends into some pretty hard drugs at a young age and I never touched a drug in my life because I spent my time away from them with my new straightedge friends in DC (...this, by the way, had nothing to do with saving my life).  I avoid a lot of stupid drunk high school parties now because I'd rather spend my time sober, seeing a nice band, with other sober people who are into the same music as me.  I do better in school when I'm happy and involved in something that I like.  I'll probably get admitted to college because of my concert photography.  And there isn't anything wrong with that.  There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.  
 
 
 And by the way, a kid at my school was almost killed three weeks ago when he was hit by a schoolbus crossing right out front of our school to go home.  Real fucking safe.  
 
 Nebraska, also, has a quite nice indie music scene...

[ggw]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  not even once in my 25 years of being a student, grad student, and public and private school teacher.

I call "bullshit" on that.  
 
 There is absolutely no way that a whiny little bitch like you made it through elementary, middle, and high school without ever getting the snot kicked out of him.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

You would be wrong. In high school I did have one scuffle with a jock who called me a "faggot" because of the way I wore my hair, but that was about it. That was broken up before I was able to finish him off.
 
 And my point was that I've only been attacked UNPROVOKED once. If my alleged "whining" had gotten me into an incident (which it didn't), it would have been provoked.
 
   

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  not even once in my 25 years of being a student, grad student, and public and private school teacher.

I call "bullshit" on that.  
 
 There is absolutely no way that a whiny little bitch like you made it through elementary, middle, and high school without ever getting the snot kicked out of him. [/b]

[MindCage]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
 [QB] You would be wrong. In high school I did have one scuffle with a jock who called me a "faggot" because of the way I wore my hair, but that was about it. That was broken up before I was able to finish him off.

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[sonickteam2]

dude, rhett, you are a loser....just get over it and lets move on to another topic.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Sonick, Nightclub Bill would definitely wear a cape.  
 
 Rhett, I have been to zillions of club shows since I was 16 and not once have I ever been involved in any kind of altercation.  It *must* be something you are doing!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Sure, blame the victim. Just like random women must be doing something to get themselves raped, as opposed to the random women who don't get raped.
 
 
 

Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Sonick, Nightclub Bill would definitely wear a cape.      
 
 Rhett, I have been to zillions of club shows since I was 16 and not once have I ever been involved in any kind of altercation.  It *must* be something you are doing!

[Bombay Chutney]

Originally posted by you be betty:
  The DC music scene has always thrived upon the all-ages aesthetic.  Ian Mackaye was 17 YEARS OLD when the Teen Idles began.  18 with Minor Threat.  Part of the culture and appeal of this music scene is the fact that it is accessible to kids of all-ages, and it always has been.  
 I'm really sorry if you don't like kids, but regardless, most of what we have today wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for those teenagers attending and playing the shows that they played in the late 70s.  

Well, I don't believe it "always has been" this way.  Those kids had to really work at it to get things to the point where it's just commonplace now.   And I'd like to point out that the drinking age was 18 at the time.  I think that made a difference in allowing kids into shows in the early days.  There wasn't as huge of an age-gap between the kids and the legal age where they'd be coming in anyway.
 
 
 

I don't know why you see something wrong with giving kids an outlet.  

I'm generally on your side here, betty, but you make it sound like this is the ONLY outlet kids have.  Like there's absolutely nothing else to do around here.  As if it weren't for nightclubs, everybody under the age of 21 would be sitting at home all night every night.  That argument doesn't really hold up well in a city like DC.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Sure, blame the victim. Just like random women must be doing something to get themselves raped, as opposed to the random women who don't get raped.
 

Yes, because a physical assault and rape are completely the same thing, carried out by the same people, and for the same reasons.
 
 

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
   Really, you're not comparing apples with apples.

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Sure, blame the victim. Just like random women must be doing something to get themselves raped, as opposed to the random women who don't get raped.
 
 

I wouldn't have made that connection, but I guess your ass biting episode might be considered sexual assault...