Stage Hand says 'no setlist, not mine to give'..

[Guiny]

Originally posted by hitman:
 [QB
 And when it comes down to it, I've never had one problem with the 9:30 staff.  They've always been more than helpful in many situations.  And I seem to think they are better than the staff of any other regional club around DC, VA, MD. [/QB]

I've had very, very, very little problems with the staff and what they've done. Only thing I hate is when they ruin the pits by standing in them, but I do laugh at the little dude stapher with his hands up karate style thinking he's gonna stop somebody from hitting him......LOL....The other bigger dude's just stand there with their arms cross, pushing people back in.....Not sure if that's right either.

[Bartelby]

Sinatra:  Instead of scrambling around up front with the rest of the crowd, just go back to the sound/light booth and ask the band's sound guy for a set list.  They always give them to whoever gets there first if you're nice; and the show doesn't go on if the sound engineer doesn't have the set list...

[thatguy]

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
 Only thing I hate is when they ruin the pits by standing in them,

i hardly think that being present in case of injury, fights, or inappropriate behavior constitutes "ruining" a pit.

[Sir HC]

Originally posted by BadSushi:
  Sinatra:  Instead of scrambling around up front with the rest of the crowd, just go back to the sound/light booth and ask the band's sound guy for a set list.  They always give them to whoever gets there first if you're nice; and the show doesn't go on if the sound engineer doesn't have the set list...

Sometimes the sound guy doesn't have a set list.  Also they often will give them one with notes on it that they need to give to the next guy who is mixing them at the next venue.  That said, this is the best way to get one.

[thatguy]

Originally posted by myuman:
  I hear you, but a small bit of gratuity like handing  a setlist to a fan is a win-win.  Being a little reasonable and compassionate goes a long way.  Remember, the club is a business that survives on customers.

using last night as an example: there were about a thousand people at the club, all of them our customers which require our reason and compassion so that we may survive as a business.  there were, i believe, 5 setlists onstage last night.  how do i, as an employee of the club, fairly decide who gets a list and who doesn't?  prettiest?  most polite? first?  nicest rack?  biggest package?  loudest?  least annoying?  highest bidder?  youngest?  oldest?  in line the longest?  highest bar tab?  strongest?  a lottery?
 
 there is no fair way to decide, so the club employees don't get involved.  if the band or their crew want to give them out, so be it.  no club employee should take anything from the stage without the consent of the band or their crew.

[Sir HC]

So did they fly their own PA for the show?  Did the guy mix in the house?

[MaLo]

I got a setlist from the Travis show at tracks in Charlottesville like 5 years ago..then like two days later i came home from work and found out that my family had been taking phone messages on it all day long

[thatguy]

Originally posted by Sir HC:
  So did they fly their own PA for the show?  Did the guy mix in the house?

flown pa, mixed from foh.  no use of the special hole.

[Sir HC]

Originally posted by thatguy:
   

Originally posted by Sir HC:
  So did they fly their own PA for the show?  Did the guy mix in the house?

flown pa, mixed from foh.  no use of the special hole. [/b]

And no one killed by volume?

[godsshoeshine]

Originally posted by thatguy:
   

Originally posted by myuman:
  I hear you, but a small bit of gratuity like handing  a setlist to a fan is a win-win.  Being a little reasonable and compassionate goes a long way.  Remember, the club is a business that survives on customers.

using last night as an example: there were about a thousand people at the club, all of them our customers which require our reason and compassion so that we may survive as a business.  there were, i believe, 5 setlists onstage last night.  how do i, as an employee of the club, fairly decide who gets a list and who doesn't?  prettiest?  most polite? first?  nicest rack?  biggest package?  loudest?  least annoying?  highest bidder?  youngest?  oldest?  in line the longest?  highest bar tab?  strongest?  a lottery?
 [/b]

biggest package

[thatguy]

Originally posted by Sir HC:
 And no one killed by volume?

i was behind the pa and the subs in the barricade, so i'm not the best to ask about the volume.

[Bags]

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  biggest package

highest bar tab

[Sir HC]

Originally posted by thatguy:
   

Originally posted by Sir HC:
 And no one killed by volume?

i was behind the pa and the subs in the barricade, so i'm not the best to ask about the volume. [/b]

Well if everyone isn't complaining like last time I guess it was better in check.

[mirrorball]

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  I guess there's a small difference between saying "No, we're not allowed to give away the setlist" (which I have seen done before by staff) and ripping it up and throwing it away in front of people. (If it really did happen that way).

I've seen it happen both ways. I understand the rules, I don't mind. At the Garbage show two years ago, my friend, along with several other fans, asked for the setlist. The roadie (I'm fairly certain it was a roadie and not a club employee), after gesturing as if he was going to give it to someone, tore it up.

[hitman]

Yeah, tearing it up is kind of a dick thing to do.  It's kinda saying "I've got this power, so fuck you."  Beyond tearing it, I was at a Live on Penn show a couple of years ago, and the sound guys were ripping off of the stage, then crumbling them up and pitching them into the crowd.  Albeit, this was amusing, several people just about killed each other going after it, just about knocking themselves out.  And one list was thrown near a ten year old, and that kid just about got ripped apart, and he wasn't even paying attention to what was going on, his back was turned.