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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 03:22:00 pm »
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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 03:22:00 pm »
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  My point is, until parents that give a shit about their kids' education start putting their kids in public schools, the public schools are going to be filled with kids of parents who don't give a shit.
 
   
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  Where's the law saying you HAVE to spend 20K a year on sending your kid to private school?
as usual, you're missing the point [/b]
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You're right, there are lots of parents who don't give a shit. However there are lots of parents who do give a shit, put their kids in public schools, get very involved and hands on, witness first hand the dysfunctional disaster that is DCPS, and for the sake of their kids consider private or charter school options......and for that matter while I think parental involvement is important, there are many many other factors that go into a successful school system....look at MoCo.....lots of parents there don't have to give a shit because the school system is a well-oiled machine

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 03:29:00 pm »
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actually Williams was appointed by the control board, not Barry
 
According to Anthony Williams' bio,
 "Appointed by former DC Mayor Marion Barry to lead the District to financial recovery, Williams restored fiscal accountability for District agencies and balanced the city's budget."
 
 I think Barry is the one who actually picked him. He was forced to do so by the Control Board. [/b]
ok, so Barry picked him....I still don't see how a single hire somehow absolves him from my cronies and layabouts comment....

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 03:34:00 pm »
Just move to the 'burbs like Rhett did:
 
 Newsweek - Top 100 Public High Schools
 
 5 - H-B Woodlawn |  Arlington |  Va. |
 11 -  Richard Montgomery* |  Rockville |  Md.
 17 -  Wootton |  Rockville |  Md. |
 23 -  George Mason* |  Falls Church |  Va. |
 29 -  Bethesda-Chevy Chase* |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 34 -  W.T. Woodson |  Fairfax |  Va.
 44 -  Washington-Lee* |  Arlington |  Va. |
 50 -  Langley |  McLean |  Va. |
 51 -  Yorktown |  Arlington |  Va. |
 70 -  Churchill |  Potomac |  Md. |
 79 -  Walter Johnson |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 83 -  Robinson* |  Fairfax |  Va. |
 94 -  Chantilly |  Chantilly |  Va. |

Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 03:39:00 pm »
But then you wouldn't be near all the cool hipster bars or DC! Never.
 
 
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Just move to the 'burbs like Rhett did:
 
 Newsweek - Top 100 Public High Schools
 
 5 - H-B Woodlawn |  Arlington |  Va. |
 11 -  Richard Montgomery* |  Rockville |  Md.
 17 -  Wootton |  Rockville |  Md. |
 23 -  George Mason* |  Falls Church |  Va. |
 29 -  Bethesda-Chevy Chase* |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 34 -  W.T. Woodson |  Fairfax |  Va.
 44 -  Washington-Lee* |  Arlington |  Va. |
 50 -  Langley |  McLean |  Va. |
 51 -  Yorktown |  Arlington |  Va. |
 70 -  Churchill |  Potomac |  Md. |
 79 -  Walter Johnson |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 83 -  Robinson* |  Fairfax |  Va. |
 94 -  Chantilly |  Chantilly |  Va. |

chaz

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2006, 03:42:00 pm »
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 5 - H-B Woodlawn |  Arlington |  Va. |
 
my alma mater

Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2006, 03:47:00 pm »
Probably why you didn't need to go to college, right?
 
 
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 5 - H-B Woodlawn |  Arlington |  Va. |
 
my alma mater [/b]

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 04:03:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Just move to the 'burbs like Rhett did:
 
 Newsweek - Top 100 Public High Schools
 
 5 - H-B Woodlawn |  Arlington |  Va. |
 11 -  Richard Montgomery* |  Rockville |  Md.
 17 -  Wootton |  Rockville |  Md. |
 23 -  George Mason* |  Falls Church |  Va. |
 29 -  Bethesda-Chevy Chase* |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 34 -  W.T. Woodson |  Fairfax |  Va.
 44 -  Washington-Lee* |  Arlington |  Va. |
 50 -  Langley |  McLean |  Va. |
 51 -  Yorktown |  Arlington |  Va. |
 70 -  Churchill |  Potomac |  Md. |
 79 -  Walter Johnson |  Bethesda |  Md. |
 83 -  Robinson* |  Fairfax |  Va. |
 94 -  Chantilly |  Chantilly |  Va. |
yeah, we could but we like living in DC, and believe me it has nothing to do with hipster bars
 
 and from a selfish point of view we are actually in pretty good shape for the next few years - our daughter goes to a public elementary school that compares well to any school in the burbs

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 04:17:00 pm »
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  he gets things done like no other politician I've ever seen....
 
 but paving alleys and solving parking ticket problems is different from running the city
 
 .....Fenty has an almost messianic zeal when it comes to making the city run better
 
These are the things that Williams brought to the District, certainly in his first term.  Running this city efficiently, like a business or any other project.  Whatever failings people think Williams had, he brought a new type of governance to the District and I thank him for it.  I hope Fenty moves forward in the same vein.  To me, Cropp offered the specter of a return to the 'old guard.'  May not be entirely the case, but enough so for me to err on the side of "new."

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 04:30:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
  My point is, until parents that give a shit about their kids' education start putting their kids in public schools, the public schools are going to be filled with kids of parents who don't give a shit.
Not the case at all.  I've done a lot of work with the DCPC schools (not in the past few years, but a lot in the late 90s, early 00s).  There are all kinds of parents that are really involved, who care deeply and get things done for their own kids' schools.  Does this make the full system better?  Not necessarily.  And I'm betting that you assume that the 'involved' parents all live in a particular zip code or two (where the parents are largely sending kids to private schools now).  Also not the case.  What I found most amazing (and inspiring) is how parental and community (ie, non-parents) involvement varies by no rhyme or reason.  It's usually about the principal.  And note, it usually involves non-parent community involvement as well.  There are some schools that are real bastions of success (on a relative scale).
 
 I think what Brennser may have experienced or heard about is when you have a few parents trying to fix a school, and they find themselves alone -- you need a critical mass to get things done.  So individual families can be frustrated with their school situation.
 
 I'm not defending the DC school system, trust me.  I'm not sure how it gets fixed, but it needs systemic change.
 
 Parents, though, are not where the real fault lies.

Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2006, 04:33:00 pm »
Just curious, what do you like about living in DC? Don't you work in the burbs? You know, you could get the same house you have for half or 2/3 the price in the burbs...
 
   
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  QUOTE]yeah, we could but we like living in DC, and believe me it has nothing to do with hipster bars
 
 

Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2006, 04:35:00 pm »
Then why did Williams endorse Cropp, and not Fenty?
 
 
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   To me, Cropp offered the specter of a return to the 'old guard.'  May not be entirely the case, but enough so for me to err on the side of "new."

Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2006, 04:39:00 pm »
I think bad parenting is much more to fault for societal ills IN GENERAL, much moreso than school boards or schoolteachers or school administrators.
 
 Part of this is in part sue to societies expectation that families have two wage earners rather than one.
 
 
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
  My point is, until parents that give a shit about their kids' education start putting their kids in public schools, the public schools are going to be filled with kids of parents who don't give a shit.
Not the case at all.  I've done a lot of work with the DCPC schools (not in the past few years, but a lot in the late 90s, early 00s).  There are all kinds of parents that are really involved, who care deeply and get things done for their own kids' schools.  Does this make the full system better?  Not necessarily.  And I'm betting that you assume that the 'involved' parents all live in a particular zip code or two (where the parents are largely sending kids to private schools now).  Also not the case.  What I found most amazing (and inspiring) is how parental and community (ie, non-parents) involvement varies by no rhyme or reason.  It's usually about the principal.  And note, it usually involves non-parent community involvement as well.  There are some schools that are real bastions of success (on a relative scale).
 
 I think what Brennser may have experienced or heard about is when you have a few parents trying to fix a school, and they find themselves alone -- you need a critical mass to get things done.  So individual families can be frustrated with their school situation.
 
 I'm not defending the DC school system, trust me.  I'm not sure how it gets fixed, but it needs systemic change.
 
 Parents, though, are not where the real fault lies. [/b]

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2006, 04:50:00 pm »
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  Then why did Williams endorse Cropp, and not Fenty?
Political and personal reasons are my bet, Fenty and Williams didnt exactly work well together

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Re: Adrian Fenty
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2006, 05:06:00 pm »
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  Then why did Williams endorse Cropp, and not Fenty?
Political and personal reasons are my bet, Fenty and Williams didnt exactly work well together [/b]
I agree...while I like Williams, he's been entrenched in the 'system' now for a while.