Author Topic: Joe Strummer R.I.P. (Read 80299 times)

Henry Dark · « **Reply #90 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:22:00 pm »

but the same good be said of the visual arts, have any of your relations heard of Yves Klein, Frank Stella or Ellsworth Kelly. Just because they live in a cultural void does not stop the rest of the world going on about them. These names mean nothing to me. Does that mean I live in a cultural void? No, it probably means that thetre work doesn't do it for me, or I have other interests that differ from them. I'll bet most people in the world don't go on about them. Just like you don't have a clue who George Jones is...what are you living in a cultural void or something?

markie · « **Reply #91 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:29:00 pm »

well I know who those artists are, two of them , Kelly and Stella have multiple pieces at prominent locations in either the hirshhorn or modern art gallery. there are Ellsworth Kelly sculptures outside the hirshhorn and in the new sculpture garden.You live in a cultuaral void.George jones was famous for missing concerts and for marrying Tammy, right?

Celeste · « **Reply #92 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:30:00 pm »

I bet alot of the general population of people have heard of the Clash because of Rock the Casbah, but maybe have not heard of Joe Strummer...til now.

Celeste · « **Reply #93 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:32:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Yves Klein, Frank Stella or Ellsworth Kelly<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>were you saying these names don't mean anything to you, or just making a point...who first brought these guys into the picture?

markie · « **Reply #94 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:39:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: who first brought these guys into the picture?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>twas me.I like there work and they are all important critically acclaimed artists. I thought it would be good to bring perspective from other arts field to what is important.Incidentally as a bonus it highlighted Henrys life in the cultural void.

markie · « **Reply #95 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:44:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Just like you don't have a clue who George Jones is...what are you living in a cultural void or something?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I was thinking about this more..... George Jones is an American artist working in a peculiarly Americam medium. That would be a good reason not to know him. I bet most culturally aware British citizens do not know who he is.Ellsworth Kelly and Frank Stella I believe are American and work in a universally respected medium.therefore Rhett, like it or not, you live in a cultural void. Try and get out more.

Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer · « **Reply #96 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:48:00 pm »

Who determines what is "peculiarly American" and what is "universally respected"?Do you like that which is "universally respected", because, as an educated cultural human being, that is what you're SUPPOSED to like, or do you really actually like it?

ggw · « **Reply #97 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:50:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: Who determines what is "peculiarly American" and what is "universally respected"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Relativism is dead.

Henry Dark · « **Reply #98 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:55:00 pm »

Philosophy class always put me to sleep. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ggw: Relativism is dead.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

markie · « **Reply #99 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:55:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: Who determines what is "peculiarly American" and what is "universally respected"?Do you like that which is "universally respected", because, as an educated cultural human being, that is what you're SUPPOSED to like, or do you really actually like it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Country music is peculiarly American. If someone from another country tries it they normally fake an American accent to sound authentic. Country sells much better in the US than anywhere else in the world. As far as I am aware CMT only airs in the US and Canada.So Country music is a Northern American phenom as far as I am concerned. Visual arts such as painting are created, viewed, appreciated and mulled over throughout the world. Painting is universally respected.alright? As for appreciating art, well thats simple, its pretty. What is the difference between seeing a great picture from reading a good book to listening to Sandinista!?

Celeste · « **Reply #100 on:** December 27, 2002, 03:57:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller: Who determines what is "peculiarly American" and what is "universally respected"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>used to be the critics and now it's the critics and the big media conglomerates who can place their "art" in venues where people can see it an latch on...as for George Jones, I bet they (the critics, the papers) WILL make a big deal when he dies, and I don't consider him all that esoteric or peculiar...I heard of him when I was much younger AND didn't even like country music

ggw · « **Reply #101 on:** December 27, 2002, 04:00:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark: Philosophy class always put me to sleep. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>As it required critical thinking and that put your brain into overload function, tripping the involuntary auto-shutoff switch.

markie · « **Reply #102 on:** December 27, 2002, 04:00:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Celeste: used to be the critics and now it's the critics and the big media conglomerates who can place their "art" in venues where people can see it an latch on...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>what point are you trying to make here?Media moguls shovell art to try and hide the fact that all they are interested in is power and money. If you have them why not exercise them by commissioning an artist?Yeah, but so?

Celeste · « **Reply #103 on:** December 27, 2002, 04:00:00 pm »

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by markie: Visual arts such as painting are created, viewed, appreciated and mulled over throughout the world. Painting is universally respected.alright? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>unfortunately, I think painting is becoming less and less relevant, actually, maybe one of you more culturally cultured folks can pipe up here with the exact quote, but I remember hearing something about film taking over

Celeste · « **Reply #104 on:** December 27, 2002, 04:01:00 pm »

On a side note...I just heard on NPR that Ralph Stanley is a pop phenomenon...who'd have thought?!?

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