How bad is the new Kasabian?

[eros]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 we havent gotten so bad that we judge a band by how they perform on letterman??
 
   oh no.

If I were promoting my new record on Letterman, SNL, Leno, etc...I'd sure as hell not mail it in the way they did.  Which gig matters more to them, their appearance on national TV in front of millions of potential record buyers or the gig they play the next night in front of 500 fans, most of whom have already bought the record?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by eros:
     

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 we havent gotten so bad that we judge a band by how they perform on letterman??
 
   oh no.

If I were promoting my new record on Letterman, SNL, Leno, etc...I'd sure as hell not mail it in the way they did.  Which gig matters more to them, their appearance on national TV in front of millions of potential record buyers or the gig they play the next night in front of 500 fans, most of whom have already bought the record? [/b]

what would be more important to you?
 
  besides, its a tired ass show, and you're playing in front of a bunch of yahoos from the Midwest on their NYC vacations.  almost all of whom have assuredly never heard of you and dont care about your "techno music".  
 
 surely Kasabian is MORE psyched for tomorrow's show than Letterman.
 
 and did you ever think that not all bands are about how many records they sell?

[Vas Deferens]

You're missing the point. Eros already pointed out that they are playing for millions of people (watching the TV) who have not heard the band. It is a big deal being on Letterman, Leno, etc. Kasabian could care less about the studio audience!
 
 Have you heard of bands cancelling a gig just to be on Letterman, Leno, etc...? Happens quite often. Tapes 'N Tapes was the last one (they canceled their Philly opener slot for the Futureheads just to be on Letterman)
 
 
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
  besides, its a tired ass show, and you're playing in front of a bunch of yahoos from the Midwest on their NYC vacations.  almost all of whom have assuredly never heard of you and dont care about your "techno music".  
 
 surely Kasabian is MORE psyched for tomorrow's show than Letterman.
 
 and did you ever think that not all bands are about how many records they sell? [/QB]

[eros]

Originally posted by le sonick:
   

Originally posted by eros:
     

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 we havent gotten so bad that we judge a band by how they perform on letterman??
 
   oh no.

If I were promoting my new record on Letterman, SNL, Leno, etc...I'd sure as hell not mail it in the way they did.  Which gig matters more to them, their appearance on national TV in front of millions of potential record buyers or the gig they play the next night in front of 500 fans, most of whom have already bought the record? [/b]

what would be more important to you?
 
  besides, its a tired ass show, and you're playing in front of a bunch of yahoos from the Midwest on their NYC vacations.  almost all of whom have assuredly never heard of you and dont care about your "techno music".  
 
 surely Kasabian is MORE psyched for tomorrow's show than Letterman.
 
 and did you ever think that not all bands are about how many records they sell? [/b]

The studio audience for those shows couldn't care less, I agree.  But there are plenty of people watching on TV who might.
 
 They might be more stoked about playing tomorrow, maybe they don't give a shit...I don't know.  
 
 And, yes, I do think that a majority of artists (particularly those signed to major labels) care a lot about how many records they sell.

[BookerT]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 and did you ever think that not all bands are about how many records they sell?

i guarantee you kasabian is not one of those bands.

[sonickteam2]

my statement had a typo and that meant to say "not all bands are ALL about how many records they sell"
 
  and thanks BookerT for the insight, you must know those guys pretty well then, right?
 
 
  (for the record, i dont like EITHER of the Kasabian records)

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by BookerT:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
 and did you ever think that not all bands are about how many records they sell?

i guarantee you kasabian is not one of those bands. [/b]

well said

[Fico]

Major label bands care about how much records they sell cos they want to fend of the repo-man if they don't sell what's expected...
 
 Indie label bands care about how many records they sell cos it could be the difference between having peanut butter sandwiches and peanut butter AND jelly sandwiches....
 
 ALL bands care how the records are selling...period.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  and thanks BookerT for the insight, you must know those guys pretty well then, right

from everything i've read about kasabian they are all about "making it" ... absolutely nothing wrong with that at all, but (from what i've gathered) they're not your prototypical DIY group who don't care how many records they sell or fame they get ... they seem more on the oasis side of that spectrum

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Fico:
  Major label bands care about how much records they sell cos they want to fend of the repo-man if they don't sell what's expected...
 
 Indie label bands care about how many records they sell cos it could be the difference between having peanut butter sandwiches and peanut butter AND jelly sandwiches....
 
 ALL bands care how the records are selling...period.

read people.  i never ever said some bands dont care about selling records.  but is that all they care about?  
 
   none of us can know for sure, cause we dont know all bands, but being an art form, i fucking doubt it.

[Big KC]

bad...  bad... bad...

[sonickteam2]

still, am i the only one that thinks the saying "well they sucked on letterman so i dont know about them" is a fucking ass-stupid way of thinking?
 
 can i be the only one?

[Vas Deferens]

I think you're quoting yourself.
 
 Here's the direct quote from someone who actually liked the first album:
 
 "It's not so great...certainly doesn't measure up the first. Really disappointing. They were godawful on Letterman the other night. Will still check them out tomorrow since I've never seen them, but I'm skeptical now."
 
 

Originally posted by le sonick:
  still, am i the only one that thinks the saying "well they sucked on letterman so i dont know about them" is a fucking ass-stupid way of thinking?
 
 can i be the only one?

[Relaxer]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  still, am i the only one that thinks the saying "well they sucked on letterman so i dont know about them" is a fucking ass-stupid way of thinking?
 
 can i be the only one?

On its face, yes. But there's so many bands out there that you have to go on what you see and hear. If you've heard/read a band isn't that great, and then you see them do a crappy performance (haven't seen it, so am just quoting), then it's easy to think, okay, they're not for me.
 
 It might be silly to just conclude they suck but most of the people on this forum are coming across a dozen new bands per week/month and there's often not enough time to delve deeply into every one.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Joe M.:
  I think you're quoting yourself.
 
 Here's the direct quote from someone who actually liked the first album:
 
 "It's not so great...certainly doesn't measure up the first. Really disappointing. They were godawful on Letterman the other night. Will still check them out tomorrow since I've never seen them, but I'm skeptical now."
 
     

Originally posted by le sonick:
  still, am i the only one that thinks the saying "well they sucked on letterman so i dont know about them" is a fucking ass-stupid way of thinking?
 
 can i be the only one?

[/b]

yes, i was
 
 but you know what i mean.
 
 this isnt the first time i have heard this sort of talking.